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I am pretty tired of the whole entertainer thing myself.

Every other service in the game can be purchased at a vendor 99% of the time(with the exception of a custom order or a slice). The former is to accomadate thehuge differance in play times of all people. Having to rely on another player ....and one being at their keyboard for a service is just not realistic in an MMO.

Message Edited by Mayor_Woosh on 09-23-2005 12:40 AM

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Mayor_Woosh wrote:

Having to rely on another player ....and one being at their keyboard for a service is just not realistic in an MMO.

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jadeew wrote:

I am certain that it was a Chef buff. When I moused over it, it said Chef. You already know my position on how I felt about this before and I am very unhappy with the changes now that I have experienced them.

Another interesting note. I was going to try to make a few vegeparsine schematics today at lunch. Unfortunately my 200 million credit a month food service came to a grinding halt and was brought to it's knees by something as trivial as AFK.

I know they already have the code for dancers and musicians to be able to record their performances and place them on vendors for sale. That way we could buy the recordings and buff ourselves when needed. Why in the world would they not impliment this?

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MTVGeneration wrote:

I think of the Buff in a similiar way to the Doc buff for combat chars. Ok we don't "need" it as much but if you are a half decent crafter and want to be competitive then you have to get one. I got flamed on my server forum for asking if there was a dancer online as I wanted a buff because I was told they are not buff bots and are not at my beck and call....not what I meant anyway when I was asking but just shows the kind of feelings from the Ent community......

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One time I said something about being afk in AH (in regard to something that happened there) and I got flamed for being afk. My response was "well maybe if you weren't ALL in Theed gabbing and not anywhere else in the galaxy where people might actually NEED you then I might not need to be afk". Shut them up pretty quickly.

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audioslaves wrote:

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MTVGeneration wrote:

I think of the Buff in a similiar way to the Doc buff for combat chars. Ok we don't "need" it as much but if you are a half decent crafter and want to be competitive then you have to get one. I got flamed on my server forum for asking if there was a dancer online as I wanted a buff because I was told they are not buff bots and are not at my beck and call....not what I meant anyway when I was asking but just shows the kind of feelings from the Ent community......

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Lame. Of course, I'm somehow not surprised.

I leave my dancer afk dancing in the Anchorhead cantina a lot - there's never any other ents there because 95% of them hang out in the Theed cantina, and it used to be nice for the little newbs to come through & get battle fatigue healed or get an xp buff.

One time I said something about being afk in AH (in regard to something that happened there) and I got flamed for being afk. My response was "well maybe if you weren't ALL in Theed gabbing and not anywhere else in the galaxy where people might actually NEED you then I might not need to be afk". Shut them up pretty quickly.

I don't mind the buff that much but I'm sure if I didn't have an ent I probably would.

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I think it was something like 6am and obviously I checked the dancer channel, MO, Theed where the dancers normally hang out and I thought I know, as a respected member of the community I can post on the Chimeara Boards so I did and then when I found one, I just added another post saying nvm and that this sucked.

I wouldn't mind but it's not like I am anti ent. I tip well and always stay and chat....but I see this buff as a huge hassle....we;'re already dependent on BE's as it is.....

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MTVGeneration wrote:

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audioslaves wrote:

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MTVGeneration wrote:

I think of the Buff in a similiar way to the Doc buff for combat chars. Ok we don't "need" it as much but if you are a half decent crafter and want to be competitive then you have to get one. I got flamed on my server forum for asking if there was a dancer online as I wanted a buff because I was told they are not buff bots and are not at my beck and call....not what I meant anyway when I was asking but just shows the kind of feelings from the Ent community......

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Lame. Of course, I'm somehow not surprised.

I leave my dancer afk dancing in the Anchorhead cantina a lot - there's never any other ents there because 95% of them hang out in the Theed cantina, and it used to be nice for the little newbs to come through & get battle fatigue healed or get an xp buff.

One time I said something about being afk in AH (in regard to something that happened there) and I got flamed for being afk. My response was "well maybe if you weren't ALL in Theed gabbing and not anywhere else in the galaxy where people might actually NEED you then I might not need to be afk". Shut them up pretty quickly.

I don't mind the buff that much but I'm sure if I didn't have an ent I probably would.

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I think it was something like 6am and obviously I checked the dancer channel, MO, Theed where the dancers normally hang out and I thought I know, as a respected member of the community I can post on the Chimeara Boards so I did and then when I found one, I just added another post saying nvm and that this sucked.

I wouldn't mind but it's not like I am anti ent. I tip well and always stay and chat....but I see this buff as a huge hassle....we;'re already dependent on BE's as it is.....

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jadeew wrote:

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MTVGeneration wrote:

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audioslaves wrote:

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MTVGeneration wrote:

I think of the Buff in a similiar way to the Doc buff for combat chars. Ok we don't "need" it as much but if you are a half decent crafter and want to be competitive then you have to get one. I got flamed on my server forum for asking if there was a dancer online as I wanted a buff because I was told they are not buff bots and are not at my beck and call....not what I meant anyway when I was asking but just shows the kind of feelings from the Ent community......

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Lame. Of course, I'm somehow not surprised.

I leave my dancer afk dancing in the Anchorhead cantina a lot - there's never any other ents there because 95% of them hang out in the Theed cantina, and it used to be nice for the little newbs to come through & get battle fatigue healed or get an xp buff.

One time I said something about being afk in AH (in regard to something that happened there) and I got flamed for being afk. My response was "well maybe if you weren't ALL in Theed gabbing and not anywhere else in the galaxy where people might actually NEED you then I might not need to be afk". Shut them up pretty quickly.

I don't mind the buff that much but I'm sure if I didn't have an ent I probably would.

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I think it was something like 6am and obviously I checked the dancer channel, MO, Theed where the dancers normally hang out and I thought I know, as a respected member of the community I can post on the Chimeara Boards so I did and then when I found one, I just added another post saying nvm and that this sucked.

I wouldn't mind but it's not like I am anti ent. I tip well and always stay and chat....but I see this buff as a huge hassle....we;'re already dependent on BE's as it is.....

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If we are going to list what we are dependent on then you gotta list tailor, artisan, and scouts in the mix. What the hell, why not add dancer to it. Maybe they can have us need a swordsman to open containers of resources for us or even commandos to get the fire going in the oven. This buff thing sucks and needs to go away.

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QFE!

I quite liked the buff as it was before and still used ENts. Need to finish grinding my own dancer but means I can't have both Chefs logged in at the same time without buying a new coimp and I am not THAT addicted!!

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sciguyCO wrote:

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Mayor_Woosh wrote:

Having to rely on another player ....and one being at their keyboard for a service is just not realistic in an MMO.

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Out of curiousity, have you played any other MMOs besides SWG?

Ok, it's not a "service", but I had some friends who were big into EQ who were always complaining about having to wait (sometimes up to a couple of hours, which always boggled my mind) for a "tanker" or "nuker" to fill out some raid group. From what I've heard (SWG is the only MMO I've played) SWG is much more solo friendly than most MMOs. The entertainer buff is the only time a crafter needs (and the level of that need is iffy at best) to interact with another player face-to-face.

I'm certainly not trying to downplay the issues at hand, it's just that an attitude against interacting with other players in a game specifically designed for multiplayer just strikes me as odd.

And as a tip: have you tried checking for cantina registrations? It's usage seems to come and go with entertainers, but it's worth a shot. If you go to the planetary map and expand the cantina category, some will have a crescent moon symbol (no entertainers registered there) and some will have a sun (an entertainer has registered their presence). There's no guarantee that the registered entertainer is ATK, but they are generally more likely to use the registration feature than AFK entertainers.

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Actually I have played many MMOs before SWG.

Interaction is good between players I agree. But not forced interaction like this instance. Unless you can on log on to play your Chef during prime time hours you chance of finding a Dancer (who is at the keyboard) is slim.

I just fail to understand also how me or any other chef for that matter going to a cantina to "interact" with a dancer for five minutes is making my game play any more enjoyable.

The entertainers cried and cried and SOE gave them a better system. Before anyone could just watch an AFK entertainer and heal their BF or get a craft buff. So SOE changes it so the class specific buffs require the entertainer to be at the keyboard.

Guess what ?

Its not working. Seriously how can it possibly be fun standing around a cantina waiting for crafters ?

Its not.

Hence the problem.

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Mayor_Woosh wrote:

I am pretty tired of the whole entertainer thing myself.

Every other service in the game can be purchased at a vendor 99% of the time (with the exception of a custom order or a slice). The former is to accomadate the huge differance in play times of all people. Having to rely on another player ....and one being at their keyboard for a service is just not realistic in an MMO.

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