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Message Edited by alligatorboogaloo on 08-03-2005 05:20 AM

I'd also have to say that you're better off having players attack each other. Did you use the same Mite to attack both people? Because I've seen dmg differ from beast to beast. You should also try to take at least 100 hits, to get a good average.

Just some thoughts for any future testing.

Yep, same mite and they did equip/unequip as the test progressed. The only difference is the TKA stood in melee range to test melee defense.

Good work. I also found this to be true as seen in this thread andthis thread.

Will the devs acknowledge the problem?

I have a vague hope that the crate/tissue/database problem that JFreeman has promised will fixed in an upcoming hotfix will address this problem.

A friend and I just tested pica thundercloud (we're in publish 22 when I write this). It made no difference to the amount of damage I did to him. Hence it (and presumably vegeparsine) is still broken.

Hello? Devs? It's been like this since the CU.

I've already posted extensive testing on this matter. My test was simple, but very, very accurate. Here is what I did...

1. I made some Vegeparsine and Thundercloud.


2. I put it on a vendor


3. people bought it

That's great for you buddy but it doesn't mean it works. You're foolish if you think that all the posts here by careful, community-minded individuals are wrong and the fact that some people buy the food from you means that it works. It's totally your prerogative to keep selling the stuff but don't malign the testing done by people who want the game to get better and who aren't just interested in accumulating virtual credits.

The point he's trying to make Barafu is that the people who buy this stuff aren't stupid. If somethings not worth taking up the filling they simply won't buy it.

There must be some benefit, otherwise they wouldn't be in such high demand. As a process of elimination, did you unequip then requip your weapons? This has known to make the effect better. And its well known that Ranged and melee defence have more a avoidance buff than mitigation one at high levels.

I don't think that in the latest test (publish 22 with thundercloud) that my friend did the equip/unequip weapon. If I get around to testing this again, I'll try to make sure we always have the target equip/unequip after taking the food.

As to the exact effect of increasing defense, as we all know that it affects both the chance to hit and the damage taken. The chance to hit effect is nearly impossible to measure (because of the large statistics needed). The damage mitigation can be calculated by this thread. By that thread, attacking someone with my pistol there should be an approximately 30 point damage difference if someone drinks thundercloud that adds +100 ranged defense. I've never seen such an effect, nor from vegeparsine. Doing tests such as these (as I have done), is the only way for customers to "know" that the foods are working. Otherwise, they are buying the food because it makes them feel like they aren't getting hit as often or for as much.

Sorry if I sound irritated. I am irritated that in order to get full benefit from items in the game, I have to constantly test things in the game. Testing is satisfying in a way. But generally, I prefer playing to testing. Therefore, I'd appreciate it if the devs fixed things, told us when they fixed them (so we can stop testing them), and if those not willing to test wouldn't sarcastically dismiss the tests.

Just one more clarification. It was just the last test in which I did not equip/re-equip -- in previous tests (listed in clickies in my previous posts in this thread) I did. Also, the OP reports that he did equip/re-equip for his tests (which showed no effects).