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Thread: Live Patch Vasarian Brandy with Medium Nutrient Additive
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Jihadic
Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:54 pm
#1
Well, sorry I didn't write down all the stats as I was hurrying to make it at lunch, but this is what I made with my Master BE and Master Chef accounts(Using resources with at LEAST 500 stats and most of the time in the 900 range):
First off, the enhancer:
Used a very nice wheat and meats to start it off at 22% experimentation. At 22%(two bars autofilled in), the buff was a 66 nutrient bonus. I experimented to 81% and, get this, I got an 84 nutrient bonus. I made a second one, exp failed near the middle but still ended up maxed at 81% and 84 nutrient bonus. Now the funny thing here is it seems you could still use bad ingredients and get over a 50 nutrient bonus.
Added the enhancer to the additive(no experimentationhere so I used crap water) and get a 84 nutrient buff.
Created the final product:
I added everything together and experimented nutrition fully(something like 80% again). Voila! +408mind/focus/willpower for 36 minutes with 7 uses and 49% filling. Not too bad although I was expecting more. This was with a medium additive which is unfortunately the max on the Vasarian Brandy. However, +816 for 36 minutes beats Fishak hands down. It blows it out of the water. Especially since you can take another two 7 minutes before the buff ends and and have a period of 7 minutes where you have +1632 to all 3. Somehow I SERIOUSLY doubt the PvPers will ignore this advantage 
Comparatively, I made a control brandy out of the same resources with no additive and got +222/mind/focus/willpower for 36 minutes with 7 uses and 43% filling(had 2 points leftover that time to go to filling).
Comparatively, I made a control brandy out of the same resources with no additive and got +222/mind/focus/willpower for 36 minutes with 7 uses and 43% filling(had 2 points leftover that time to go to filling).On a side note, in the brief time I was online, I got requests from regular customers for Thakitillo and Burnout. I know I will be making Rakirrian for my own TKA account as well as the melee defense food(forgot what it was 
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jeditao
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:01 pm
#2
What stats of meat and flora affect the experimentation of the additives and at what percent?
Numen
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:15 pm
#3
I'm just wondering if you have confirmed the drinking 2 after 30 minutes yourself. I was under the impression that the stomach is constantly emptying. When it got down to 53%(probably in the 15 minute range or so) shouldn'y I be able to use another one then? If so I think it would be possible to get a 600-700 buff going nonstop. That was at least my impression of the stomach decay.
Jihadic wrote:
Created the final product:
I added everything together and experimented nutrition fully(something like 80% again). Voila! +408mind/focus/willpower for 36 minutes with 7 uses and 49% filling. Not too bad although I was expecting more. This was with a medium additive which is unfortunately the max on the Vasarian Brandy. However, +816 for 36 minutes beats Fishak hands down. It blows it out of the water. Especially since you can take another two 7 minutes before the buff ends and and have a period of 7 minutes where you have +1632 to all 3. Somehow I SERIOUSLY doubt the PvPers will ignore this advantage
Numen
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:20 pm
#4
Also another comment on it. Even with crap resources like you said you would probably be starting off at 50-60%. That would make a 300-350 Brandy or so. While it is more ingredients and factory runs I can't imaging it would take any longer than the old vishak.
Add 20 meat and 40-50ish organic to the schematic of the Brandy and that is what you have.
The biggest problem I see with this is that you either have to be a BE to keep up with your crafting or have 1 amazing BE that will be making you tissues. Meat obviously will be a problem but at least this one is any meat I believe(I think it is creature food on the schematic).
This one will be the easiest to mass produce, I just hope it doesn't become the norm to use it.
Meplorium
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:31 pm
#5
Getting the BE isn't the problem, it is getting the team of 15 rangers going at it for 10 hours a day to keep up with demand on this stuff. Very nice drink btw, I am thinking old BoH is passe'. I see these going for insane prices. It is supply and demand, and the supply just isn't there, but the demand will be huge.
jeditao
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:35 pm
#6
Is it an option to gather resources and then just have a BE make a schematicthatwe can run ina factory?
DashZero
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:37 pm
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Numen wrote:
Even with crap resources like you said you would probably be starting off at 50-60%.
Im so sick of hearing this excuse. She didnt say she used crap resources...she said most were in the 900s.
Additionaly my all 900 resource produced only 10% more than a 100-400 resource. This patch has decreased the experimentation range and the resource range.
Numen
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:38 pm
#8
jeditao wrote:
Is it an option to gather resources and then just have a BE make a schematicthatwe can run ina factory?
That is an option, but you have to find a willing BE. I can't say I would welcome people coming to me with resources and asking me for a food schematic. Friends I would do that for though. I know it might seem like they are being greedy, but they are also the ones that spent the skill points for the profession. I'm sure there are some that would be willing to do that, but probably not all.
jeditao
Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:06 pm
#9
Numen wrote:
jeditao wrote:
Is it an option to gather resources and then just have a BE make a schematicthatwe can run ina factory?
That is an option, but you have to find a willing BE. I can't say I would welcome people coming to me with resources and asking me for a food schematic. Friends I would do that for though. I know it might seem like they are being greedy, but they are also the ones that spent the skill points for the profession. I'm sure there are some that would be willing to do that, but probably not all.
I see what you mean, I personally don't really like it when armorsmiths come to me for schematics but mainly because most of them expect to get schematics for free. So if I offer a reward of, say, 10k, is it going to look better?
Kisedd
Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:17 pm
#10
I think that was actully how the Industrialist was supposed to work. You brought a schematic to them and they ran the factory. Certainly charge to make the schematic for them, but you don't have to make a killing. It's an oportunity for you. You have things you woudl rather make on your own. This way the person gathers their own resoruces, and uses their factories vs yours. If you charged a reasonable price you could make a pretty decent side income selling schematics.
Numen
Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:27 pm
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I would definatly offer something for their services. Amount I'm not sure on. For an entire run of tissues your probably saving 400-500k credits. But they are also not putting in very much effort.
I can easily see offering a BE 10-50k for a schematic depending on the amount I was expecting to make with it. I'm not going to pay 50k if I'm only making 100 tissues.
The other option is to make friends with one and offer some services or something. Maybe the schematic for a crate of food or a half crate of some BE food. Cost is up to you. You can obviously ask them what they want to be compensated with or how much they will charge.
Szordin
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:50 pm
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here's the stats I got from the following ingredients:
+396 mind stats for 38m at 49% filling in stacks of 10
As long as it's under 49%, I can drink two. This gives you +792 buff that stacks with muon for 38 minutes that you can refresh when you need it.
Materials Used
MED Additive
meat
FL 468
PE 997
OQ 947
FL 468
PE 997
OQ 947
Fungi
FL 849
PE 958
OQ 966
FL 849
PE 958
OQ 966
Final Combine
Large Glass
Berries
DR 995
FL 810
PE 684
OQ 538
DR 995
FL 810
PE 684
OQ 538
Fruits
DR 605
FL 834
PE 903
OQ 849
DR 605
FL 834
PE 903
OQ 849
experimented heavily on flavor since that's what I enhanced...maxed it at around 78%ish and then put one into stack size and one into flavor. Got one more in the stack from 9 to 10 and 2 minutes onto the buff length.
What are we charging for this stuff anyways? lol 
Jihadic
Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:08 pm
#13
I was thinking of starting at 100K, but I may bump it up even more after realizing just how much HQ organicsare required for the nutritional buffs. It's more than the food in most cases. Although after testing with some junk resources, I didn't notice a HUGE decrease in the quality of the additive so this may not be so bad.
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