Carbineer Archive

Thread: CARBINEER STILL BLOWS

JabbasFatash
Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:45 am
#1

I've PVP'd many times since the patch and I can honestly say that the improved Dizzy attack has not even come close to making us a formidable PVPer. The dizzy takes too long to stick, and even at master Carbineer I still miss way too damn much WITH ALL MY SPECIALS. I am getting sick of this. Give us a damn mind attack, or lower the ham costs. I held on to this broken profession hoping that the new patch would help things, but it hasn't. I think I'll go all brawler profs since thats obviously what the devs want us to do.




Specs ~ Willhorn
Ex Senior Officer of Oda
Naritus

wilibus
Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:47 am
#2

/wavehand Carbines do still suck, you want to drop all your skills and become L337 and leave this community in peace.


Damn no FSCSmy jedi mind trick probably won't work, this guy is probably gonna stick around and complain.''


/shrug i tried. but at least is better than nerf-herding








Lawke Eislen | Carbine Extraordinaire | Imperial Pilot Ace
Avaris Eislen | Procurer of Combat Fashions | Kintan, Naboo

TAfirehawk
Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:50 am
#3

The "regulars" here would say, I TOLD YOU SO. We knew this before it went LIVE, thanks to Nova's testing on TC and our expert knowledge of Carbineer.


Go play melee....



I love the changes and with skill we are quite formidable in ALL situations. But that doesn't mean we are the new UBER PvP FOTM out there either, which none of the true Carbineers wanted to begin with.






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

TAfirehawk
Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:52 am
#4

/tipshat wilibus



Can't wait for a couple of Carbineers to gang bang his melee arse real soon.....






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

JabbasFatash
Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:58 am
#5

Who in their right mind would not want their combat profession to be 'uber'. What a rediculous statement. fact is, we are stil getting owned in PVP. One-star me all you want, just don't ignore the fact I make a valid point.




Specs ~ Willhorn
Ex Senior Officer of Oda
Naritus

TAfirehawk
Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:01 am
#6

Just go read the thread that Carbineer doesn't suck, its the Player.....


"Fixing" Carbineer to be the uber FotM just means we will get nerfed. The game needs balance, get a clue.....






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

wilibus
Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:05 am
#7






JabbasFatash wrote:
Who in their right mind would not want their combat profession to be 'uber'. What a rediculous statement. fact is, we are stil getting owned in PVP. One-star me all you want, just don't ignore the fact I make a valid point.




.... Most of this community, is more than happy Carbineers just how they are. Only problem i have is our speed mods, which is easily solved by a speed slice,some nice powerups and some tapes.


Ihaven't really notice i have been getting owned in PvP by uber classes. Yes they beat me more often then not but at least i put up a fight. And other then the 1 in 20 template kiddy i fight i find i do just fine in PvP. The only real problem i have is against Riflemen and even so igot myselfa good helmet andif i am moving and close to them i can usually cause them to miss once or twice which is more then enough time to have them blinded and on their backs, and give me a fighting chance.









Lawke Eislen | Carbine Extraordinaire | Imperial Pilot Ace
Avaris Eislen | Procurer of Combat Fashions | Kintan, Naboo

JabbasFatash
Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:06 am
#8

It isn't the player. When we miss half the time and the specials take up all your ham there is a problem. I've tried many different pvp tactics with all our specials and the same keeps ringing true. I've got a clue. You've got the blinders on. The dizzy takes 2 -3 shots just to stick (if you're lucky). Fact is our damage mitigation and counterattack are also weak compared to the other defensive mods given to rifleman and pistoleer. You can have this profession. Getting constant buffs simply to survive is rediculous.




Specs ~ Willhorn
Ex Senior Officer of Oda
Naritus

wyx1
Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:13 am
#9

JabashFattas, your points are valid, but atleast our forum isn't cluttered with nerf posts.



Zubenel Genubi

ATK Master Musician, Master Entertainer, Master Carbicide..
novamarine
Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:17 am
#10

For the record, I do not want this class to be uber. I want it to be balanced with strengths and weaknesses. It's not there yet but it is heading that way.
Cenete
Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:27 am
#11


Im sorry but any prof can "blow" if used wrong or improperly


i got Mcarbs on monday night before the patch, since tuesday ive been PvPing and basically nothing but


after a couple hours of playing with friends in duels i learned what shots worked more effectively agains certin profs ie TK riffleman etc


also with a good Carbine i was hitting players with full 80/74 comp on for an easy 600+ each time not to mention 80% of the people i fight i kd/dizzy them


now imo the fact as a ex master fencer/master brawler with some extra stacked defenses, i would get raped from riffleman who got the run on me


now against the same people i rape them like theres nothing to it


sure i take hits before i kd/dizzy them but understand this


most riffleman hit around 300-650dmg and i usually do 400-900dmg and btw ill post screen shots to prove it


not to mention i shot much faster than a riffleman


now my only beef is the HAM costs but oh well ill deal with it


and then here comes the sweet part


me and 3 guild members go into AH to kill some rebels


6 come running up the hill at us


with a great radius EE3 i stunded 5 dizzyed 4 and KD 3 now imo that just changed the battle for us from a possiable lose to a certin win







-Grape Ape

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TAfirehawk
Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:53 am
#12

Yeah we all miss half the time and our damage mitigation is different than every other profession???? SURE......


Do you even have Master Carbineer?






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

ForceDisturbance
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:37 pm
#13

Carb is fine in pvp if you use your head a little. That means you can't stand there against a rifleman and his jawa or a pistoleer and his Geno pistol and spam away. I actually love carb. I have to admit, I mastered carb awhile back cause it was my first holo. The thing is, I haven't dropped it since. I easily rid myself of my old Master Commando/Rogue/Pistoleer template because I simply have too much fun with carbineer . So, I suppose you can call me a converted Carbineer/Reformed hologrinder! Thank you and glad to be here!



Iefaot Womi ¤ IEBO
Master Swordsguy ¤ Punching Bag ¤ Master Rifleguy
Gimped PVPer and All Around Nice Guy
¤ Ahazi ¤

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