Carbineer Archive
Thread: To TA(not as bash)
Of course I was harsh, all of these "political" posts were NOT IN ONE SMALL BIT RESPECTFUL....they were horribly insulting to everybody here, SOE especially for breaking the ToS.
In this place i dare to ask two questions:
1. Why do you find the posts to lack respect? Can you please explain, in my eyes the whole conversation was civil and in good manners, we were not insulting each other and we also decided to cut the matter as we didn't want to converse this place into a political discussion. Actually you are the first one here to write in capital letters, which according to usual Netiquete is considered disrespectful and inappropriate language.
2. Can you please explain why this conversation is breaking the ToS? I very much assume that you refer to this document: http://sonyonline.com/tos/tos.jsp
I have read through the complete text twice, but was unable to find any actual violation of the conducted rules. (While actually a number of postings throughout the forums could be declared to be violating the ToS, the accusation of doing so is not valid forthe thread in question.)
OK, just let this thread go down the drain....and see how many people get put on "vacation" from the Mods.....actually there are 3-4 people that should have been reported already....
Do not worry. The people involved in the discussion already decided to end the matter, and to end it peacefully and in agreeance, before you took influence.
Censorship....OMG....this is NOT a free speech forum, this is SOE property with very specific guidelines everybody agreed to before entering......trying to twist the fight a soldier is undertaking around to mean we should have free speech on an SWG Forum of all places is sure a slap in the face to all military personel.
TAfirehawk wrote:
Thanks
I know I can't please everybody and I am just here to represent the ENTIRE Carbineer Community to the Devs and do my part as a REGULAR PLAYER to make Carbineer better. It seems most people forget that I am just a regular gamer that happens to be linked to SOE for community communication purposes only.....
orange5 wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
Thanks
I know I can't please everybody and I am just here to represent the ENTIRE Carbineer Community to the Devs and do my part as a REGULAR PLAYER to make Carbineer better. It seems most people forget that I am just a regular gamer that happens to be linked to SOE for community communication purposes only.....
pffft
/bitingmytongue
Don't be shy now....you have enough balls to PM me (accusing me of deleting your post) so you might as well let everybody know how you feel right here in public for ALL TO SEE.
Like I keep saying, if anybody has a problem with a particular post REPORT THE DARN THING......and if you don't like the job I do for Carbineer then PM Tiggs or GarVa or Virrago or TH.....and my 6 month term is coming to an end soon so ANYBODY can apply for the position.
Otherwise, until you are in my shoes don't pretend to know what goes on around here.
I see no need to respond, but read the ToS and Forum Guidelines please....they are linked at the top of each forum.
And I use CAPS all the time....amazing how quick people are to judge me when they have no clue who I am or how I post or what I think around here....if anybody has a problem with my posts, please report them to a Moderator for review, you all have the same power in that regard as I do when ANYBODY gets out of line
BTW, I have had the Star System turned off for a long time, but I hear some of you are expressing your feelings via that method, well stop being silent and post
TAfirehawk wrote:
From the TOP of every Forum:
Please remain on topic for the Star Wars Galaxies forums, do not use these forums to discuss Politics or Religion.
TA, I admire you as a moderator, but regarding the previousthread which resulted in you posting this and regarding the stern action in which you warned, Idecided to re-read the rules. I also want to point out the wordoutlined in red above. Please is not requirement, it's a request, and from a political junkie such as myself.....I have to say that I (and that other fella) excersiced great restraint by being 100% respectful and pithy.
The following is a summary of the Forumrules and of the actions that took place in that other thread:
Rule 1: We are all Here to Help: I was only trying to help
Rule 2: Be Friendly and Courteous: We were both friendly and courtious
Rule 3: Be Relevant: The discussions, although not relavent to SWG, they were relevent to the original poster.....which wasn't relavent to SWG, but nobody complaind about that. (Nor should they have)
Rule 4: Be Legal: Nothing illegal
Rule 5: No Spam: No Spam took place
Rule 6: Enforcement: No rules broken, so no enforcement needed
Rule 7 Limitation of Liability: Legal jargon
I respect your authority, but wielding it wildly (When unfounded) doesn't promote free discussions. You've requested that people participate in these forumsbeyond simply using the 1-5 star system, then you squelch a discussion. (Go figure?) 
yea that was weak, the only posts that needed deleting were the ones you posted which, were basically attacks on me and my post....As the kiddies call it, I pwnd you and you deleted all eveidence lol, I would have too though hehe
TAfirehawk wrote:
orange5 wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
Thanks
I know I can't please everybody and I am just here to represent the ENTIRE Carbineer Community to the Devs and do my part as a REGULAR PLAYER to make Carbineer better. It seems most people forget that I am just a regular gamer that happens to be linked to SOE for community communication purposes only.....
pffft
/bitingmytongue
Don't be shy now....you have enough balls to PM me (accusing me of deleting your post) so you might as well let everybody know how you feel right here in public for ALL TO SEE.
Sylow wrote:
I see no need to respond, but read the ToS and Forum Guidelines please....they are linked at the top of each forum.
I've taken a look through them. I still see nothing which violates them, except the line:
Please remain on topic for the Star Wars Galaxies forums, do not use these forums to discuss Politics or Religion
And even here i am unsure of we violated the rule, the whole thing sure started as my first (well-meaning) wish for the poster to stay well was stronger interpreted than i thought. The following discussion in my eyes was not a political one, we didn't go into any acutal issues of politics, as we all agreed that we would not want that here, in my eyes the following posts were just "restoring peace" after this missunderstanding.
And I use CAPS all the time....amazing how quick people are to judge me when they have no clue who I am or how I post or what I think around here....if anybody has a problem with my posts, please report them to a Moderator for review, you all have the same power in that regard as I do when ANYBODY gets out of line
I am not judging you. How could i, as i never met you and don't know you. I know your postings and i saw how people reacted on your statements sometimes. According to normal Netiquete, writing in caps is understood as "shouting", which many people feel offended by. I guess this is not your intention, still this is the impression you deliver upon people reading your posts. I once again say, i respect you for your competence and i definitely have no bad feelings for you. My only comment on the matter is, as several people reacted negatively on your anwers, it could be that a bit more of diplomacy might be helpful at some time. (I know that you repeatedly say, you are just another player and nothing special. Still your title makes many people set "higher standards" on you, even if they don't even realize themselves. Still this is something you have to accept, if you bear a title, you better sooner thanlaterkeep up to higher standards than "Joe Average", else there'll always be some problems. Again diplomacy is the key.)
BTW, I have had the Star System turned off for a long time, but I hear some of you are expressing your feelings via that method, well stop being silent and post
I fully agree that the star-system is very shallow. While I used it a few times to give 5 stars for postings where i fully agreed, rating a posting with 1 or 2 stars without a comment is worthless in my eyes. If somebody disagrees with a posting, he should post his oppinion, only that way people can understand what might bethe issue.
It is really nice to have well thought out posts around here.....I like the mature conversation
There is more than just the ToS, The Seven Daily Rules
orange5 wrote:
yea that was weak, the only posts that needed deleting were the ones you posted which, were basically attacks on me and my post....As the kiddies call it, I pwnd you and you deleted all eveidence lol, I would have too though hehe
And you still think I had them deleted.....oh well, whatever.
Pwn me all you want, like I give a darn.
its no use dude, this guy TA can't be reasoned with, and has no concept of being apologetic or rethinking his actions, we just have to take the good witht the bad when it comes to this guy
samijx wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
From the TOP of every Forum:
Please remain on topic for the Star Wars Galaxies forums, do not use these forums to discuss Politics or Religion.
TA, I admire you as a moderator, but regarding the previousthread which resulted in you posting this and regarding the stern action in which you warned, Idecided to re-read the rules. I also want to point out the wordoutlined in red above. Please is not requirement, it's a request, and from a political junkie such as myself.....I have to say that I (and that other fella) excersiced great restraint by being 100% respectful and pithy.
The following is a summary of the Forumrules and of the actions that took place in that other thread:
Rule 1: We are all Here to Help: I was only trying to help
Rule 2: Be Friendly and Courteous: We were both friendly and courtious
Rule 3: Be Relevant: The discussions, although not relavent to SWG, they were relevent to the original poster.....which wasn't relavent to SWG, but nobody complaind about that. (Nor should they have)
Rule 4: Be Legal: Nothing illegal
Rule 5: No Spam: No Spam took place
Rule 6: Enforcement: No rules broken, so no enforcement needed
Rule 7 Limitation of Liability: Legal jargon
I respect your authority, but wielding it wildly (When unfounded) doesn't promote free discussions. You've requested that people participate in these forumsbeyond simply using the 1-5 star system, then you squelch a discussion. (Go figure?)
nope, just lettin ya know it was weak, believe it or not I didnt want to drag it into the forums for everyone to see, some peole prefer to deal with these issues in aprivate matter, its just my style
TAfirehawk wrote:
orange5 wrote:
yea that was weak, the only posts that needed deleting were the ones you posted which, were basically attacks on me and my post....As the kiddies call it, I pwnd you and you deleted all eveidence lol, I would have too though hehe
And you still think I had them deleted.....oh well, whatever.
Pwn me all you want, like I give a darn.