Carbineer Archive
Thread: Ranger/Carbineer?
regretfully carbineer is not anywhere near your most powerful "solo" profession...for that you want TKM, heavy-sword, pikeman (yes, in PVE they're devastating...& underrated), or rifleman.
rifleman if you don't like the running around after stuff thing...none of the other ranged have anywhere near the same damage as rifle, and you get ap2/ap3 weapons w/ very good defenses.
swordsman is just a mean muther...took out a krayt ancient the other day w/ a rifleman helping lay damage. fencer has much better defense, but can't hold up on the damage of a hammer/scythe. dabbling in fencer defense goes very well w/ swordsman if you have the skillpoints after ranger.
TKM is very high defense, very good damage against low-mid level stuff. massive drop-off in damage against heavily armored or high kinetic resist targets tho...and since kinetic is your only option, very limited if it's your only combat profession.
pikeman have amazing AE attacks, very good state attacks, crappy defense, and can easily obtain VERY nice DOT weapons...poison/disease/bleed/burn...pikeman can lay out an arsenal of DOT's by just pricking the opponent. also get nice dps against high-end content (good piercing) & kinetic/electricity damage types...also energy, but that NS energy lance is a bugger to obtain.
again...sorry to curb someone from carb, but if you're looking for stand-alone ability, carb is not what you seek. 
~pentjak
essentially taking from phenix's big game hunting thread, most ranged templates can be very succesful.
IMO...
Carbines has FAR better specials then rifles and almost as good specials as pistols but has the added range over pistols
No root with carbs, but the p-dart + snare gives you a dandy root that you can keep re-applying
Damage on an e11 mark II can be GREAT... my base DPS is about 370
the KD with carbs has good damage as well (unlike BH KD) and also has some nifty animation... I love using charge shot for the final blow
The Grievance Striker carbine (NK loot drop) has really good damage and a RANGE OF 60 METERS!!! slap 2 ranged arms on and you can hit from 75m with a carbine!
so yes... Ranger/Carbines is a great template
I switched from Rifles to carbines after reading the intial release of the Ranger revamp.
While not able to do as much damge per shot carbines is nice when it comes to specials. As posted above P-darts and Crippling Shot and you have one slowed Krayt or GDK.
You still hunt them the same way. You kite and apply snares as needed. Difference being you do not have the Rilfe penalty for movement on you anymore, so you are a bit faster.
The knockdown is nice also. Once you execute a knockdown you have 5 seconds to apply your next shot for a 20% boost in damage. You also have two AOEs you don't have with rifles either. So kiting multiple targets is an option once again.
Since you best modifier is a 1.9 damage modifier you will have to fire more and manage your action just a bit more. I have been using PIxie, Booster blue and Blob Candy as well as SAC pups they all help to keep you in a prolonged fight.
Meta- wrote:Just thinking of switching my template, once again lol ...is ranger/carbineer an effective template? the KD, snares+Pdart look good lol ....plus the range is good for trap throwing. I hunt alot of krayts/gdk etc ...so will ranger/carbineer be able to support this?
I've been a master ranger / master carbineer since the CU, and it's a very good template. All I would add to the above is to finish the siren quest and get yourself a bothan bola special ops carbine. It does really good damage, even better when sliced.
Iseult
Master Ranger / Mediocre Carbineer
Bloodfin
Meta- wrote:Just thinking of switching my template, once again lol ...is ranger/carbineer an effective template?
The Devs seem to think so. Lol
Personally I've always been Ranger / Rifleman. I enjoy the ability to pick apart my prey before wading into battle and by carefully using traps and effective nuking I can thin a group down with it very easily.
There's a lot to be said about Carbines though. I was seriously tempted after the CU to trade to Carbines because I like alot of their specials... never really been a fan of their weapons though.
Cryos_Merovingian wrote:
the KD with carbs has good damage as well (unlike BH KD) and also has some nifty animation... I love using charge shot for the final blow
i love doing that too!
Ohetie
Iseult wrote:
Meta- wrote:Just thinking of switching my template, once again lol ...is ranger/carbineer an effective template? the KD, snares+Pdart look good lol ....plus the range is good for trap throwing. I hunt alot of krayts/gdk etc ...so will ranger/carbineer be able to support this?
I've been a master ranger / master carbineer since the CU, and it's a very good template. All I would add to the above is to finish the siren quest and get yourself a bothan bola special ops carbine. It does really good damage, even better when sliced.
Iseult
Master Ranger / Mediocre Carbineer
Bloodfin
What sort of stats and damage type do those carbines have, Iseult?
Are they as good as this?
Message Edited by DaveG on 10-04-2005 07:09 AM