Carbineer Archive
Thread: Carbine + Stun dmg ?
But wouldn't you carbineers like a Stun dmg carbine? Riflemen have their Jawa Ion Rifle and Pistoleers have their Geo Blasters and Tangle pistols (lmao). Wouldn't it be fair to give carbineer a weapon equal to them? And perhaps(!) toss in a FaceShot or whatever to hit mind pool?
I mean.. carbineer is master of states.. at least combined with BH. Why should it be useless in PvP?
This has been discussed many times before though, and many agree they do not want a mind attack nor stun.
Herbsmoker wrote:
Turn carbineers into mini-rifleman
Fixed.
Although the prospect of being able to "pwn j00 4ll teh n00bs" is appealing, i think i will pass
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
SpunkyKuma wrote:
DXR6 carbine and DXR6b rifle served me well when I was both rifleman and carbineer on different toons, nowadays everyone is ready vs stun damage and you'd need extremely high damage Jawa and Sonics to compete.
This is very true. Ranged Mit 3, and a +40% stun PSG (possibly coupled with a 30% stun resist armor) will, for the most part, render a Geo pistol null and void. Acid has, however, become a very large concern among PvPers now that the devs have opened up BH and all the pistoleers are getting BH as an add-on, and BH offers the ever accurrate Scatter Pistol. Although, this does open up another aspect. With the nullifying of Master BH, fewer people now use the LLC in actuall combat (being a BH/carbineer, I can say the only place I use my LLC anymore is in the DWB and whentaking downat-st's) (and btw, I was a BH before I became a Carbineer). Which means, that unless my memory is mistaken, Pikeman are the only one's that really use Elec damage in PvP anymore (and there's about as many of them as carbineers).
Stun was very powerfull at first, but like he said, everyone is ready for stun. The least guarded attack that I see is cold. Only rifleman can use it, but they pass it up for the AP3 T-21 (and I don't blame them, that thing owns at a distance. It will tear right through some 80% composite and re-arrangethat pretty little face under the helmet). Energy and electricity are starting to get overlooked a little more now, but a decent cold carbine could definately give us a chance in PvP. Especially since padded is the armor best suited for defending against it (I think). I'm not one to go for "teh win" button so to speak, or to whine until I can "pwn" everyone I fight, butthe carbineer'soptions have been limited for quite some time. Anyway, that's my thoughts on it.
I had carbineer for a while, then like an idiot I dropped it to get some ranger. I then started up pistols to compliment my BH, but everybody and their Gulf Drolg is doing that. Plus I missed my elite carbine.
Otegu123 wrote:
Stun is no better thanany otherother damage type in pvp. Its not stun thats good, its ap1 stun thats good. A jawa is the onlystrong stun weapon in the game. A geo's damage is a joke against prepared people..
True. But then again rifles tend to have harder hitting weapons so that they can do the most damage beforethe riflemangets rushed. Rifleman do tend to suck at anything up close and personnal, which is why alot of Rifleman are picking up TK. They're dangerous both far and near. Still, I don't see too many rifleman using the ion rifle. Most rifleman I see are still using the T-21, and one of them put me on the ground in 3 shots the other night. But that could just be my server.