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Thread: Master Weaponsmith Research: Carbineer Weapons

SWGMerchant
Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:14 pm
#1

Hello,


We are conducting research to help focus our efforts on providing the most effective weapons at the right price for the Carbineer profession and others. We would greatly appreciate it if you would take the time to comment on the following:



  • Which weapon (or weapons) are you most interested in purchasing?

  • What stats (damage, speed, HAM costs, etc) are you looking for? (unsliced)

  • How much would you expect to pay?

Your assistance will help weaponsmiths on all galaxies serve you better.


Thank you,

SWBarker12
Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:39 pm
#2

Laser Carbine. AP two is just really nice to have. As a beginning carbineer something like 30-220 speed 4 or something, however, being a little farther into carbineer Im looking for somthing more like 50-250 speed 3 (sliced, with Krayt) something around there. Also DH17s are nice for easy planets, low HAM.





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Exodite
Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:32 pm
#3

Weapon - Most Carbineers are interested in Laser Carbines because of the medium armor penetration and big high-end damage. Carbineers that are worried about HAM costs seem to prefer the DH17 Snubnose.


Stats - Damage: I haven't seen an unsliced Carbine yet that did over 300 points of damage on the high end. However I constantly see posts now of people selling pistols that do over 300. 300+ damage would be a good starting point, but we really need to be seeing carbines that break 400 if we want to be competative.


Stats - Speed: We don't get a lot of speed modifiers for some reason. IIRC we top out at +60 speed with master, so the target speed for our carbinees should be 2.5 seconds. That is the point where a Master Carbineer hits the 1 second cap.


Stats - HAM: Most high damage carbines that I have seen have HAM costs in the 40s or 50s. We kill ourselves faster than the enemy with these. HAM costs need to be in the 30s to be competitive. Anything in the 20s would be great.


Cost - If you couldbuild me a 300+ damage, 2.5 speed, 30-something HAM carbine (of any type) I would gladly pay 50,000-75,000 for it. For one with 400+ damage, I would pay up to 200,000 or so. <Not sure about other people, but I am REALLY tired of having sub-par weapons all the time.>




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Chrovae
Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:39 pm
#4

may I please be the first, like, anywhere, to state that not all of us care about Laser Carbines. the damage variance is simply too great to be worth my time. Id much rather have a DXRX with lower variance in damage and better damage type than a Laser Carb anyday. Secondary to low damage variance is HAM cost, which is totally irrelevent on a Snubnose because of its highly resisted damage type.



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Pootian
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:24 pm
#5

Lannie sun on lowca (near anchorhead) has unsliced 40-260 3 speed laser carbines (speed slice drops it to 2.5 speed)



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JohnyBGood
Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:52 pm
#6

the unsliced carabines on bria are 42-272 3.7s however if you use krayt you get 300 damage unsliced.with 25% damage slice it will probably get to 375 which is enough for a 2-3k random ham hit (at master) with a reasonable speed(any faster and your ham is gone). I've seen people selling 300 damage carabines for 100k but it's an expensive server



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Genrader
Tue Oct 14, 2003 4:39 am
#7

I got a laser carbine on Corbantis from Icarii that is 30-268; however I got it sliced and it's now 45-301. With powerup it's 52-402

Ajo79
Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:54 am
#8

I use an Elite Carbine cause


- Its medium fast. Not as fast as a snub, not as slow as a medium.


- Centered damage... high min damage, though not so high max, but it works.


- Armor piercing 1. Does more damage than an EE3.


- I would pay around 15K-20K for a good elite.




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imn4life
Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:19 am
#9

DXR6 focusing on speed then damage
Iruc
Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:13 am
#10

I have a Laser carbine ar2 dmg37-374 spd5 that is unsliced and non krayt tissued. I don't remember the ham costs but I can tell you they are fairly nasty, I chew through action and health like you wouldn't believe. I'm kinda shocked when I see all the low damages everyone has on thier guns here. On naritus my gun is nice but definitly not the best I've seen.



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KudaarkSomtaaw
Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:28 am
#11

For myself I use 3 trypes of carbines, a DH17 subnose (2.6 96-210)for low HAM cost, my all purpose gun. A EE3 ( 1.9 79-170 ) to tap lair and heat weak MOBs, with the speed. An the unforgetable laser carbine ( 2.6 26-266 )


DH17 :I presume that dh17 with krayt tissue can be very good, only problem, no armor piercing


DXR6 : I never seen a good DRX on wanderhome, but acid type would be great.


laser : I hate them! a crippling shot cost about 120 HAM, and their awfull minimum damage keep wasting them! I use my DH17 twice more


EE3 : no armor piecing as well , their damage and heat type aren't bad tho


Elite : I never seen a good elite so far, about 110-210 sliced, with4 speed. Armor piercing, awsome minimum damage, but i saw big HAM cost. I sould try to find a krayt enhanced.


As master carabinier I prefergood speed ( around 2.0 to 2.5) over damage


The weapon of my dream would be an elite 2.5 150-250, unfortunatly the HAM cost seems very high





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JohnyBGood
Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:05 am
#12

I dont know what's wrong with you people - for 2k buffs worth from a master doc you can negate all ham costs (for a gun without stock) - I use mainly laser - yes I'll hit more often with dh17 but light armor halves the damage medium brings it down to 25% heavy armor 12.5 and you apply the protections to what's left from it. Well I'm a MCH and tanking is not a problem for me - I want to do heavy damage at long range - possibly to several enemies if I use area shots. I can solo with my laser 22k mission in under 7 minutes on dathomir - I'd gladly pay 200k for a good laser one (350 max damageunsliced)



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SWGMerchant
Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:23 am
#13

I'd like to thank the carbineers who have replied so far. This information is quite helpful.


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