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Thread: I got a carbine speed AA but it didnt add to my dps...

Ostaka
Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:32 am
#1



i had a piece of armor with +3 carbine speed/+2general ranged accuracyon it, it had 2 sockets left and i put a +13 carbine speed/+25 heavy weapon defense AA on it, it replaced the carbine speed for the 13 and the piece of armor now has +13 carbine speed/+25 heavy weapon defense/+2 general ranged accuracy. my modded dps (with pup and slice) on my proton carbine before adding this AA was 893, i added this +13 (which in reality turned into a +10 because i rreplaced a +3 with it) and it didnt add to my dps at all. it stayed exactly the same, can anyone help me as to why this happened?

Message Edited by Ostaka on 06-20-2005 01:59 PM

Message Edited by Ostaka on 06-20-2005 11:15 PM



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Ostaka
Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:59 pm
#2

someone please help me with this



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Quandry
Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:36 pm
#3

Well you could have so much speed that the diminishing returns are not adding anything to your dps...Maby the weapon is already realy fast also and heck drop a speed pup on it...


But my guess is you have other speed attachments on and although you added another 10 to what you had you are past the 25 to a stat cap and therefore the extra 10 wont be used.



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Ostaka
Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:22 pm
#4

i thought there was no longer a cap since the CU came out, i've gone way past +25 speed and still have been adding to my dps but now it wont go up any longer. before i added this AA i had +39 speed, now i have +49 in attachments. there must be a bug or something unless someone knows better, maybe a dev could help me out on this one.



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TAfirehawk
Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:48 pm
#5






Ostaka wrote:
i thought there was no longer a cap since the CU came out, i've gone way past +25 speed and still have been adding to my dps but now it wont go up any longer. before i added this AA i had +39 speed, now i have +49 in attachments. there must be a bug or something unless someone knows better, maybe a dev could help me out on this one.





This is no bug and you don't need the help of a Dev, I can handle this one


#1 the +25 SEA cap per mod was never changed and is still in effect. The Skill Sheet always displayed more and now the Character sheet does too, but I have personally tested this and the Devs have responded to this at least twice, the +25 cap is working and will not change. My test was going from +25 to +30 in SEA's and it makes no difference.


#2 you are MBH so you are well over +100 Carbine Speed with MCarbs. Now while there isn't a hard cap on speed, the law of diminishing returns is now in effect (per the CU Docs and thousands of posts) so a +10 gain in speed at +125 will not do much compared to the same change at +50.


#3 your REAL DPS is limited by a soft cap imposed by the cooldown/cycle timers on Specials, so speed is no longer that important.....don't believe the Weapon Examine Window basically.




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Ostaka
Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:53 pm
#6

but why would a +9 raise my dps by 8 but a +10 by 0?



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Sebye_Lavan
Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:13 pm
#7






Ostaka wrote:
but why would a +9 raise my dps by 8 but a +10 by 0?





Maybe you could fully explain your template and your speed without any attachments. Then, tell us which attachments you are wearing and what you're concerned about. Are you way past +25 on the same mod? Carbine Speed? or is it a combo of General Ranged Speed and Carbine Speed?

Message Edited by Sebye_Lavan on 06-20-2005 05:14 PM



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Babygotback
Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:42 pm
#8






TAfirehawk wrote:


This is no bug and you don't need the help of a Dev, I can handle this one


#1 the +25 SEA cap per mod was never changed and is still in effect. The Skill Sheet always displayed more and now the Character sheet does too, but I have personally tested this and the Devs have responded to this at least twice, the +25 cap is working and will not change. My test was going from +25 to +30 in SEA's and it makes no difference.


#2 you are MBH so you are well over +100 Carbine Speed with MCarbs. Now while there isn't a hard cap on speed, the law of diminishing returns is now in effect (per the CU Docs and thousands of posts) so a +10 gain in speed at +125 will not do much compared to the same change at +50.


#3 your REAL DPS is limited by a soft cap imposed by the cooldown/cycle timers on Specials, so speed is no longer that important.....don't believe the Weapon Examine Window basically.







This man is very smart, and very well informed. Thank god we have you as a correspondent.
TAfirehawk
Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:40 pm
#9






Ostaka wrote:
but why would a +9 raise my dps by 8 but a +10 by 0?





There is something else going on that you have not explained, but I can assure you the Weapon Examine Window's Modified Speed will not change when you go above +25 on a single mod via SEA's.



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Ostaka
Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:43 pm
#10


ahh, it seems i have capped on my carbine speed but not on my general ranged speed, that makes sense now. whats the cap on general ranged speed?



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Sebye_Lavan
Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:32 pm
#11

All mods on SEA's are capped at +25.






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Ostaka
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:15 pm
#12

ok, well i need +12 more general ranged speed and i'll be "speed capped" thanks for the help on this guys



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Quandry
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:40 pm
#13



Ostaka wrote:
ok, well i need +12 more general ranged speed and i'll be "ATTACHMENT speed capped" thanks for the help on this guys







Added the word : )


There is no hard cap but after about 130 more speed is just a waste of a socket you could put sompthing your low in at....or acc :0)



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