Carbineer Archive
Thread: carabineer and the PvP struggles
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Jedi1006
Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:39 pm
#1
well i mastered carabineer awile ago to see what it could do and personally in pvp id rather use a survival knife! Carabineer does nothing in pvp anymore these days with comp armor being 80% plus and having 0 stun weapons and worst of all no mind damage attacks. There is no way a carabineer can win in pvp. Just about everybody has buffs and the only chance u have of winning anymore is taking out the mind.....so i say make a good carabineer weapon with stun damage or sumthng with heavy armor piercing ya know like a t21 carbine heh.......lol fix the specials since half are broke and the only decent shot we have is crippling shot unless you combine with BH then your best shot is fire knockdown or confusion shot if they work.......and give us some sorta mind shot AND one last thing GIVE us some dang defense. All we have is counterattack but all other defenses are crap.......SO PLEASE.....carabineer would be a fun profession if we could beat anything for once..... And have a chance in PvP!
-sorry for the ranting and raving but carabineer needs some improvement-
and to all my carabineer partners: Goodluck and Godspeed
weaponmaster88
Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:23 pm
#2
i do agree we could use some improments, and there is no way your going to beat a rifleman, but i really haven't had a problem with duels. as a carbineer BH i have won 5 of my 6 duels these past 2 weeks, and the only one i lost to was another carbineer. (most of the others were TKM's)
Otegu123
Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:24 pm
#3
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We're actually one of the few professions where we have plenty of useful specials...
The problem your having is a general pvp problem in that the only way to do damage against a well prepared person is use rifleman or dots. Its not carbineer specific, try going pistoleer or pikeman, even tkm's and fencers do less than 50dps against proper armour, psg's and foods. asking for a stun carbine isno use at all, its just a waste of development time as once they sort out armour, stun wont be the 'be all and end all' of pvp. Carbineers can get by ok in pvp with the right equipment..it just takes millions more credits and lot more effort/tactics....
Otegu123
Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:28 pm
#5
Dra90n wrote:
Dizzy+KD>Riflemen
until they get up 5secs later and continue the HS3 spam
weaponmaster88
Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:32 pm
#6
Otegu123 wrote:
Dra90n wrote:
Dizzy+KD>Riflemen
until they get up 5secs later and continue the HS3 spam
i agree there, i duel TKM's from 5m let them KD dizzy me, get up 5 seconds later and shoot them to peices. its funny watching them scream and yell cause i'm not supposed to do that for some reason. KD is very overrated in my opinion, it helps, but it dosen't make or break a duel like HS3 spam or pre-nerf CM poisons.
Dra90n
Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:41 pm
#7
How do you get up in 5 sec? When I go down I have to stay down till my dizzy wear's off.
Otegu123
Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:01 pm
#9
Dra90n wrote:
How do you get up in 5 sec? When I go down I have to stay down till my dizzy wear's off.
press /stand once your on the floor, as soon as you see the 'your so dizzy you fall back down' message press /stand again. just repeat this until you get up. if you press /stand again while your getting up though, you'll fall back down again
DaLoco1
Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:33 pm
#10
I do absolutely fine, I land a intimidate/stun and you don't need to worry about getting hurt. Then try to land a dizzy KD, cripple shot at speed cap is nasty from there. Definitely try to get a krayt carbine, although you can do alright with normal ones. Speed cap is a must so if you don't have skill tapes, definitely pick up BH.
Jedi1006
Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:56 pm
#11
lets all be serious here fellas: Carabineer sux in PvP for5 reasons
1. TKA- overused overplayed...over everything profession
2. Rifleman- same as above
3. Thatkilo- knockdown prevention Food
4. No mind Damage- lets face it with buffs these days
5. No Defense- only counterattack....come on
If your facing one of these 2 professions you dont have a chance especially since about half the player base is one of these 2 professions or both and they eat a thatkilo which most smart PvP players do. It'll be over before you can say knockdown 2 or headshot 3. I mean carabineer is only good with BH but if they have thatkilo then ur done especially is they have buffs and comp armor.....you mine as well just stay on the ground once they put you there. Carabineer can be good in PvE if you know how to use ur specials but other then that in my experience with carabineer......well i'd rather not go there
DaLoco1
Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:03 pm
#12
Weird, because I just beat 2 TKA's at the same time not 3 hours ago... Well anyway, if you don't like the profession, no reason to play it. Best PVPer on my server is a carbineer/pikeman. Just because you don't know how to use it doesn't mean it sucks, and its because of people like you there are overpowered professions. People complain about a proff they don't know how to use, and then it becomes overpowered because the devs cater to the whiners.
Ifisa
Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:44 pm
#13
Well, I am a tkm, im reading up on other boards to see what else I want to become. I don't see how you think they are great in pvp, we only do 20% damage on average armored opponents, ive even seen 90% kinetic resist armor for sale. Also, I think tkm kd's are screwed up, I can do a KD 2 and an unarmed dizzy, yet rarely hit (people without the food) and a fencer knocks me down and I can't get back up.
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