Carbineer Archive

Thread: Carbineer Master Box

novamarine
Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:59 am
#1

So, in reading through the responses to my question about issues, I think it is fairly obvious most people are happy with issues 1-4 (HAM costs, speed, carbine selection and defenses) and that issue 5 should be about getting something for our master box.


The question from there goes, what do we put into our master box? Some people have proposed a skill. Other's have proposed not adding a new skill but adding something else or moving something from the trees up into the master box. You will remember I started a thread on what should go into our master box a few weeks ago and so I used that as reference to pull out both popular ideas and great names. Based on that thread, I have come up with 4 suggestions for our master box. This first suggestion is a skill as opposed to a special with the 3 others being specials. For the last 2, I used 2 common requests for specials (cripple2 and fas3) but used 2 very cool names I saw proposed. Please comment and/or vote for your favorite or suggest something else.


From:rexrobinson
"I propose the new Master Level Attack be called "Winchester" it may not be star warsy but this is a command given in order to unload all you have on the target, it is used and any ex or current Marine or Army troops out there knows how much that command makes you feel good. Nothing like being behind a chain gun in a Pave Low and hear "Winchester""


FullAutoON: This would be an activated buff much like Center of Being or Power Boost. Except instead of being a defensive buff, it would be an offensive buff that increases the firing rate. Perhaps +10-20 speed for 5 minutes with a 5 minute cooldown. It could also add a small boost to counterattack and perhaps running speed.



From:WufgarRuffian
"Grazing fire- designed to lay down suppressive fire that will be no more then 1m in height traversing from left to right. basicly used so if anyone is dumb enough to get up from cover and attack they get cut in half"

Grazing Fire: AoE/Cone. Moderate damage with a chance to add intimidate and stun.



Name suggested by: Elvandar01
Disintegrating Blast: Single Target. In essence, this would be fullauto3. Higher chance to stun, dizzy and blind with a higher damage modifier.



Name suggested by: Elvandar01
Eviscerating Volley : Single Target. In essence, this would be crippleshot2. Higher damage modifier than crippleshot.

Message Edited by novamarine on 04-05-2004 03:05 PM

Asteroids
Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:04 am
#2

I vote for Eviscerating Volley.

JosieNutter
Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:55 am
#3
I would prefer "FullAutoOn". Carbines, to me, are supposed to be submachine guns. The ability to lay down a withering, if not exactly accurate, cone of fire fits that image.

A variation on this would be to make it a special attack, somewhat along the lines of the "overcharge shot" series. This could be a short burst of attacks that automatically occur at the speed cap, at the cost of damaging the weapon. (All that heat and vibration can't be good for it.)




-K
Roaming
Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:18 am
#4
A carbineer imo is at the point where they really do beef up a group, but they dont do it as well as another fighter should. I'd really just love something that gave us a burstrun type buff and gave us a few different abilities that would help us be more effective while staying deverse from rifleman and pistoleers. Such as-


Adreniline Rush-

Semi Burst Run

+25 Carbine Acc while moving

+15 Carbine Speed

+15 Counter Attack


Duration3 minutes

Recharge5 minutes


Make us more hit and run gunners. The way we should be in battle. We don't have time to stay on one target like a rifleman does. We need to be able to get in, lay on a few states, and move, move, move. Faster shooting, more accurate hits, the ability to shrug off damage, and the burst run all have a lovely place here.
RebalMarineHunter
Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:23 am
#5

Disintegrating Blast -


When I was a master BH, Carboneer 0403, Carbines rocked and I used mine in pvp 80% of the time (and won 80% of the time easy), it just plain rocked. Now, why did they rock? Real good speed, incredible accuracy (+180 with that mix) and the ultimate carbine shot out there, /sprayshot.


Full auto single 2 does not come close to this shot. They both do the same thing, but /sprayshot often stuck all 3 states in the first shot, almost always in 3 shots. And it had a nice low ham cost and low re-load time. The next best carbine shot to follow of course is /crippleshot, which we already have.


So, give us something like Disintegrating blast, it would have to go at master in order to keep the BH's from getting to justifiably upset by carboneers getting there best shot. Or, maybe adjust the shot, have it do a little less damage than sprayshot but have the same chance of landing the state effects. Or, take the blind off and put intimidate on it instead.


I feel for the BH's so I would hate to just duplicate there best shot, but after being a carboneer for a little while now and all but nothing left of BH, I am amazed by our utter lack of power and we could truly use something like Disintegrating blast in order to justify us.


Now, one other thing I would like to see, is a little higher ranged defense at master, maybe an extra 20 points, nothing huge, but just a little something to help out. No extra melee defense needed really, I try to not let them get that close to me.






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XAND0R
Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:36 am
#6

I like Disintegrating Blast.






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novamarine
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:00 pm
#7

Please vote!


For the people adding all new ideas. We had a monsterthread 2 weeks ago on this topic. While I am not going to say you cannot post new ideas, please consider that I am not taking those to the Devs unless large numbers of players vote for your idea. In essence, unless you really hate the 4 popular options I pulled from that monster thread, I suggest you vote for one or vote and suggest a minor change.


I need to get this info to the Devs this week and we are in a way past the idea collecting stage and into the which are the best ideas stage. Does that make this task clear?


KenjiTokugawa
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:21 pm
#8




novamarine wrote:



From:WufgarRuffian
"Grazing fire- designed to lay down suppressive fire that will be no more then 1m in height traversing from left to right. basicly used so if anyone is dumb enough to get up from cover and attack they get cut in half"

Grazing Fire: AoE/Cone. Moderate damage with a chance to add intimidate and stun.







this sounds good to me



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Ron_in
Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:00 pm
#9
I must admit, I like the sounds of Winchester and FullautoOn, while I fail to see much of a difference in the two, anything that can give me some uber rate of fire in which I can put holes into my target with repeatedly is great.



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Weasel7479
Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:02 pm
#10

I'd like to vote for, FullAutoON.



RebalMarineHunter
Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:08 pm
#11

/DisintigratingBlast


then /Fullautoon


I think both could be given to us, they are somewhat unrelated are they not? Those would be some nice bonuses at master!





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novamarine
Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:43 pm
#12

winchester = fullautoON.


I renamed it so that it had a SWG-type name.


I listed the names and original message to show all these ideas were player driven. I was afraid it might confuse people and it did


CaptainStormy
Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:57 pm
#13
my vote for sure would have to be FullAutoON that would be awsome.






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