Carbineer Archive

I really don't have any problems with the way the Carbineer profession runs now. The apparently high ham costs are quite annoying I agree, but I don't spam my specials too much. At the beginning of most every fight I get into, I hit Full Auto2 two or three times. I use a Laser Carb. which does 29-249 dmg. (spliced I believe). My starting class was Marksman and I am a human with the base stats. None of my stats have been changed. After the three specials go off, it takes me about another 3 rounds or so to be back to full ham and I can throw down another two or three specials as I deem them necessary.

I occasionally go out crimson blurrg hunting on Endor with two of my guild mates, and even after pets and the BH LLC are used I am pulling around 1k carbine experience. The BH is getting around 2k, and the other guy is a CH so he gets whatever CH exp. for the pets he uses. So overall I am happy with this profession.

What is really starting to upset me with these boards is that all I read is whining and crying because each profession can not be the one that everyone else want to be like, with the exception of the BH. And even they piss and moan. It seems to me that what most of the people posting here are doing is wanting the devs to uber their profession while nerf'ng everyone else.

I would like to see what the expansions hold for everyone before any more work goes into 'fixing' the current professions. If you give things a while all of the professions will eventually settle into themselves as they are intended to by the devs.

That is all,

Sadist

Alright all these have been mentioned, but I am gonna list all the ones I know of.

1) Charge Shot 2 does not work, and it is coded and working as the pistoleers disarm shot 2 for some odd reason. (I was in Beta, Disarm Shot 2 was not a KD attack in Beta)

2) The whole "Carbine Assault Tactics" Branch is useless. Stun doesn't do anything of value, thus making wildshot 1 & 2 useless. Scattershot 1& 2 don't do enough damage and hit all three pools too rarely to be of any use.

3) Leg Shot 3 is weaker than Leg Shot 2, at least every time I have used it, and even it's just bad luck, it still doesn't compare to body shot3 or head shot 3 Also in the marksmanship branch, Cripple shot doesn't make sense to hit a random pool if it is accuracy based. As accuracy based it should only hit one pool, maybe make it a Master Carbineer attack, or put it in a differant branch?

4) Full Auto Area 2 does less damage than Full Auto Area 1.

5) Burst Shot 2 doesn't seem to big of an improvement over Burst Shot 1.

6) Not sure about this one, maybe someone else can confirm it, but I've heard that suppress shot 2 doesn't work at all either.

7) The "Elite Carbine" is the most useless weapon I have seen since CDEFs. In beta it was Armor Pierce 3, at least make it Armor Pierce 2 so it is useful.

8) I've seen unsliced scout blaster pistols do as much standard damage as my damage sliced EE3 (89-209).

9) Over All Carbines just seem a little on the slow side. Don't make them as fast as pistols, but at least make them a little faster.

10) The biggest problem I think is the super high costs for the attacks. Rifleman attacks don't even cost as high as the carbine attacks do, and a majority of the rifleman attacks (all from what I've seen) work. Make our attacks work and lower our costs a bit would make sense.

11) There's not another special attack when you get master Carbineer.

Just my upsets at Carbineer right now, based on what I've seen, done, and heard.

stops before you shoot, stops when someone shoots you. this is not carbineer, this is WALTZeer. why the hell a weapon user that has the primary design concept of `crowd control` stops every now and then when a battle breaks out ? does anti-terror teams stop everytime they invervene in a mob ? who had the sufficient level of ignorance to introduce such an error into the game ?

It's been over a month now. Any word?

Eryn GreyWolf

Gorath Galaxy

Carbineer/Pistoleer/Bounty Hunter

So much said in so many threads. I'll just speak about the weapons here. Is it me, or aren'tcarbines the equivalent of sub-machine guns / light assault rifles?? These weapons SHOULD be faster than pistols, and do more damage to boot. The main asset for the pistol should be the dangerous in-fighting capabilities. Nobody seems to think that a rifle or LLC should do the same damage as a carbine. The damages are drastically different there, so why not the same in the carbine/pistol? The damage should not be the carbine's handicap, the accuracy should. Simple as that. No pistol should be on par with a carbine in either speed or firepower.The accuracy on a carbine however, should not be what a pistol's is due to recoil. How far will this go? Why does a Commando's rocket launcher, or flamethrower, fire every 4 seconds or so?? Those weapons are ARTILLERY. Where has the sanity gone?

Totally agree on fixes. I'd like to add one more bug. About 80% of my first shot on a mob miss for some reason. I'm not moving, I'm at ideal range, mob isn't moving. As a 3/4/4/4 carbineer I'd expect a 100% hit rate in this case. Oh I dabble too, i'm a 0/4/0/0 bh, my acc is +145. WTH is going on here??? The rest of the fight i miss about 10% which is reasonable seeing as how i'm constantlymoving to causea to hit penalty on the mob. My goal in the game is to be the strongest possible carbine user (as master carb, master bh carb i'll have 11 points left), I hope my dabbling doesn't offend the purest out there. I'd like to add to that I mastered bh carbs before entering carbineer, and to be perfectly honest I've noticed absolutely no change in my effectiveness except for crippleshot which i spam all the timeafter Iuse knockdownfire. Acc apart from the first shot seems to have increased slightly. Besides these two things this class is pretty much completely useless until it gets some love. I'd recommend all "carbineers" out there to drop the actually carbineer skills and take bh carb tree, it's far superior and alot easier to reach once you get to bh.

Genome Balantine - Carbine Guru - Rebel Warrant Officer I - Wanderhome

"Meet Betsy, my 69-487dmg 3.6spd laser carbine"

To whomever it was who said that everything pc-related is buggy, I have something to say.

When was the last time you bought a PC game where they openly admit [at the time of launch] that it wasn't finished, and still charged you 50 bucks plus a monthly fee?

There is no debating these simple facts.

75% of our class specific abilities are useless, and no not work. There is no tweaking to be done, they need to be FIXED! When something is broken you FIX it. I bought this game in July and here we are still two months later, two monthly fees and no word from the Devs, while I can do nothing but log on every **edit** day and hope they finally got off their @$$es and did their job.

I'm not sitting around and doing nothing another couple months while i wait on my game to be completed, not if i'm paying for it.

Other mmorpgs ARE coming out soon, and if they can guarantee that their classes work then there's no reason for me to stick around here now is there? Guess I'll just cancel my account and check in about 6 months from now to see if they finally did anything about it or not.

But i doubt it.

I'm sorry sony, this is unacceptable by any means.

Ok nuthin' changed

I'll be back next year, maybe we get some fixes...

It's been a week since my last post and I've discovered a few things about carbines, carbineers and PvP. First, PvP:
We are owned. Everytime, everyway, by almost every character class. Let's see, do I want to die by the Commando or the Bounty Hunter or the Tera Kasi Master or do I just feel like walking away and not dealing with it? 1600+ points of damage from my newest laser carbine? It doesn't matter, because it won't hold my enemy at bay or even make them dizzy enough to fall over. But the Tera Kasi student can run up, soak up my full auto laser dmg, and knock me out for the count. Even though hes been shot in the leg, crippled and supressed.

As for Carbineers in general, there doesn't seem to be many on Tempest. This makes me feel a little stupid - it's as if everyone else was smart enough to realize that this class is owned in PvP and chose something decent. Or maybe I just went for a class that needs some tweaks? Are there any carbineers on Tempest? Hello?

And lastly, carbines, as far as weapons go, have great potential if a player is patient and works with weaponsmiths. Ive been able to acquire custom made carbines over the past week (Ive ordered 10 different ones) created with resources Ive extracted or hunted down for the weaponsmiths (I use 3 different ones). As of this morning my main laser carbine has a 2.4 speed and deals 78-279dmg, with low HAM. Thats great compared to other weapons, and I have a laser carbine that deals over 350 max damage at 3.4 speed. Of course its sliced, but do you see where Im going here? None of these carbines were made with advanced components - they were made by using hard to find materials and by getting weaponsmiths to compare notes. I dont know what carbines are doing on other servers, but this is the one point of light that gives me hope...

Mhhh, i am carbineer 3,3,1,2 and i never loose to pistoleers, rifelman or other carbineers(excet masters and carbineer BH-Carbineer tree combos). With a good composite armor they dont do enough damage.

But i always loose to BHs now. They hit me with their LLC and its over. Commdos are not that much of a prob.

yea, i dont get owned in pvp either. me and some guild mates were killing time the other day waiting at the guild hall for more ppl before we did a fort tusken raid.

I was using my lasor carb, 2.5 speed 40ish - 280ish damage

I would start out with AS1, then AS2, then Burst Shot 1 spam. sometimes there action would drop low and the i would start using leg shots. Of course i would heal myself every now and then, but so did the others as well. And i dont wear armor.

I fought a commando all the way up acid line, i won 2 times out of 3. the last time he hit me with the acid spray for 3500 damage. but as soon as that was done he bleed to incap. so i would have won if that move had missed. This commando was wearing a comp armor chest plate, leggings, bootsl and helm.

another commando in our guild i fought was on flame 3. i dueled him 4 times. won all four times. he almost had me once, one more hit could have done it. but he bleed to incap. he was wearing a full set of comp armor.

fought a pistolier/combat medic he wasnt wearing any armor. lol, and if it wasnt for the fact that he could heal so well i would have beaten him. i dueled him 3 times and lost all 3. but again, it was his CM skills that made him win.

im only at 2,1,1,1 in carbiner right now. lol, so i dont think that our class is that bad, just a few bugs with the specials, high ham, and a bad elite. but i in no way think were so bad we cant be used. In bestine alone on my server, i know 3 masters and 6 others besides myself who are carbiner. lol, so were on the upswing i think. not to long ago i was the only one around for a while.

Yep, looks like they are still "working" on our class. But when when will they get around to us? I know thy have worked on other classes. I like the game alot, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around. Its been how long since they even thought about us? I understand this is a huge game, and alot of things to work on. They can at least acknowledge our issues, right?

Hey guys just found out how to use the forums here and ill add what i am not happy about carbineer class since everyone else is

First thing is that i am not a straight carbineer, i am a Bounty Hunter Carbineer. I have maxed out the BH carbine tree and have just started on the carbineer tree and so far i am not very impressed. I see commando's with less skill in there weapons take on anything they want and walk away where as when i attack something most of the time it is me killin myself and the enemy does nothing to me. I have to say

1. HAM COST ARE TO HIGH.

plan and simple. Nuff said.

2. ELITE CARBINE NEEDS TO BE INCREASED IN STRENGTH

Now i am actually using this carbine and am please with it to the fact that it has a stable range of damage. No 39 point hits with this bady. Problem being that is if itisnt sliced and you are not using a power up with max damage and min damage it is pretty useless. The ones where i am are around 103-170 with speed 3.6. Just make the carbine what it name implies. an elite weapon. If you want to be cool just add an M4 carbine into the game and i will really be happy

With the bounty hunter attacks, Fireknock down is an awesome attack, and all the abilites that it adds, one thing adds +20 to speed and acuracy, is quite nice but even with all of that i find myself getting taken out. I have used the BH pistol before and have to say that it is way better then any carbine we have and it shoots faster.

I am stupid, and all I do is want and need things.

Fight Club, a book by Chuck Palahniuk (yes it was a book first)