Carbineer Archive

Thread: carabineer and the PvP struggles

giffordgekko
Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:59 pm
#66

from all the negative posts on carbineer - i was regretting taking up the profession however soon as i made master and then bh x3xx i started to pwned - they just dont expect a carb to know what hes doing!



carbineer is gr8 for me - lets hope they make the ST armor better
JanuHull
Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:51 am
#67






giffordgekko wrote:

from all the negative posts on carbineer - i was regretting taking up the profession however soon as i made master and then bh x3xx i started to pwned - they just dont expect a carb to know what hes doing!



carbineer is gr8 for me - lets hope they make the ST armor better




BH/Carbineer is nice, it should just be noted that this makes you a stacker, an offense stacker. Nice to turn the tables on the melee fighters once in a great while.




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mrmark200000
Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:07 am
#68






Dra90n wrote:

Dizzy+KD+blind>Riflemen






dont forget blind



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Ubesane
Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:57 pm
#69

Ok..I am a NOOB Carbineer. But let me say this. I have dueled two TKM's, a rifleman, a pistoleer/bh/rogue, a Carbineer,a fencer/TKM stack and I have beat them all except the fencer. The reason I did not beat the fencer was I made the mistake of letting her get close to me and got a posture change that put me down. She began to beat me mercilessly. By the time I was able to stand again, my health was gone...not my mind. The rifleman was beat (not easily)by just running up close to him and dizzy,stun, blinded him followed by spamming of SS2. Then I fired his three bars down to nothing. I was able to beat tte TKM by using dizzy/kd and kiting him. I'm not stupid so...yeah I ran and fired him up. So, this profession is not too bad..yeah it lacks some D### but tactics play an important role. And it is fun watching rancors tumble down as I fire them up. NPC's except the NS Elders and some of the UBER NPCs do not stand a chance.


Ubesane
Jedi1006
Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:11 pm
#70

lol ive never lost to a carbinner/bh ever. im dot stacking pikeman 2



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Brainplay
Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:37 am
#71






Ubesane wrote:

Ok..I am a NOOB Carbineer. But let me say this. I have dueled two TKM's, a rifleman, a pistoleer/bh/rogue, a Carbineer,a fencer/TKM stack and I have beat them all except the fencer. The reason I did not beat the fencer was I made the mistake of letting her get close to me and got a posture change that put me down. She began to beat me mercilessly. By the time I was able to stand again, my health was gone...not my mind. The rifleman was beat (not easily)by just running up close to him and dizzy,stun, blinded him followed by spamming of SS2. Then I fired his three bars down to nothing. I was able to beat tte TKM by using dizzy/kd and kiting him. I'm not stupid so...yeah I ran and fired him up. So, this profession is not too bad..yeah it lacks some D### but tactics play an important role. And it is fun watching rancors tumble down as I fire them up. NPC's except the NS Elders and some of the UBER NPCs do not stand a chance.


Ubesane






Always have a good PSG with decent stun resists on it if you aren't willing to buy a stun layered chestplate and biceps. Stacking both of those is murder on fencers. Without stun fencer dps is absolutely pathetic.





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Sevven
Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:53 am
#72

Well i like it very much Master Carb/BH 0 4 0 0 Pistols 0 0 4 0 / Medic

90% comp with stun layer 30% /take steak 15 mins before fight / then kd food / then1100 buff food

Sliced shield gen/ bio clothes / two ankin rings /12 seas all for def/ muron gold / I start off with my dots carbines first would come my BABY dh17 with a 505 health tick pot is 266 time is 6 mins/ next is my ee3 dot mind 220 tick pot is 65 last 132 secs/ next is my elite dot mind 178 tick pot is 47 last 2 mins/ then ee3 dot 230 action pot 57 95 secs/ then back to my preacher 678 laser carbine .

And yes I SAY COME TO JESUS FOR HE CAN FREE YOUR SOUL. and its over so yes bh /carbs can be uber just takes time to learn proff and spend time and money getting right weapons.O ya for who thatdont know doc/ jedi can heal poisons around once ever 5 secs speed capped you shot once a second at acc cap so very saldom miss which means they cant heal them selfs fast enough



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mrmark200000
Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:54 am
#73






poking wrote:

carbineers own jedi and everything else


Except fencer that always wins






i think not my friend



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Jedi In the NGE. I like. cool Melee

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TAfirehawk
Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:52 am
#74






mrmark200000 wrote:





poking wrote:

carbineers own jedi and everything else


Except fencer that always wins






i think not my friend







Well a properly equiped Fencer with no Jedi around will always win....it happened last night at our cities PvP Night. Eventually the PSG goes down....I ran thru 2 in 24 minutes in one duel....


The Fencer Defenses are so borked I don't know how anybody could PvP without them.....


Fighting BH or Pistoleer or even TK was a joke.....walk in the park


BTW, I am a SEA Carbineer/Fencer/Pistoleer biwan:





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

TAfirehawk
Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:54 am
#75






BULLROACH wrote:
Master Carbine 4/4/4/4
Bounty Hunter 0/4/0/0
Creature Handler 4/4/3/0
Scout 4/0/4/0

That is my current template. I do better than 85% overall in my PvP. I use only carbine weapons in that. It took me a bit to get to know when and how to use my specials but once you know you will be much more sucessful at it.






Anybody with any decent defenses, not even Fencer, would so pwn that template.....I have that on my PvE toon and don't dare PvP with it....


And PvP wins are not picking on noobs....





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Duende29
Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:23 am
#76

Well, you guys have to take into account that no single combat profession will get you anywhere on PvP. If you want PvP what you do is pick a main profession and then compliment with other prof's bonuses, so if we start singling out professions, well, most all of them suck, only that some are better for raw damage, others are good at landing states, other are good at defending. Take a Rifleman without anything else and well, once a melee catches him he's dead. Yes, at the end if you wanna kill someone on pvp what is more effective is Rifleman because well, they hit mind and have stun damage, but that doesn't mean a stat attacker can't win either. I am a TKM and the only way we can win in the present times with 90% kin armor and melee mitigation 3 is to keep landing states on my oponnent. Luckily we can bypass some of the stat defenses with capped speed, but so can Carbineers (at a very high price though) and we can hit mind (ridiculuosly weak, and being kin lol). Still, I think I'm not that bad at PvPing and I tend to incapacitate everything but stacking Riflemen with Head Hits because there's no point at doing Health or Action damage with a 2300+ Doctor Buffs.

All I recommend for PvP guys is well, perseverance. I am a non-BH Pistoleer also and I too share the pain of having a profession with broken specials(I use no Pistoleer specials except Health 2). Get over the losses, die to learn, live to kill.



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BULLROACH
Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:19 pm
#77



TAfirehawk wrote:


BULLROACH wrote:
Master Carbine 4/4/4/4
Bounty Hunter 0/4/0/0
Creature Handler 4/4/3/0
Scout 4/0/4/0

That is my current template. I do better than 85% overall in my PvP. I use only carbine weapons in that. It took me a bit to get to know when and how to use my specials but once you know you will be much more sucessful at it.


Anybody with any decent defenses, not even Fencer, would so pwn that template.....I have that on my PvE toon and don't dare PvP with it....

And PvP wins are not picking on noobs....







I cheat. Just like you. I use my financial tools to get an edge. So I win more often than not. Now what you dare to do and what I dare to do is all moot. I am sure you know people that have many differing templates and are successful in PvP. A template is only valuable up to a point. It is not always a template that creates a favorable out come but the strategy used with the template. From the posts that I have read of yours I thought you would have an understanding of that.



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TAfirehawk
Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:24 pm
#78






BULLROACH wrote:

I cheat. Just like you. I use my financial tools to get an edge. So I win more often than not. Now what you dare to do and what I dare to do is all moot. I am sure you know people that have many differing templates and are successful in PvP. A template is only valuable up to a point. It is not always a template that creates a favorable out come but the strategy used with the template. From the posts that I have read of yours I thought you would have an understanding of that.





First, we are not cheating in any sense of the word.....


Second, I just wanted to give the HIDDEN details that you so obviously left out of your template....meaning the equipment wins in PvP.....


I understand perfectly.....but I don't want noobs getting the wrong ideas from our discussions based on previous knowledge.




Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

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