Carbineer Archive

Regarding how fast I can get through scouting... hmmm its just time.. I've got everything in scout but trapping. I also have marksman. Its grinding like any other profession. I'm just saying once you get to Novice BH its easy rolling because no more combat xp to deal with. I'd like to see you go up Master Carbineer and say that its faster than BH. Beginner professions like master marksman / scout I can do in a weeks time now that I know the strategy. Carbine tree's are shared xp points so if you gain 120k xp you can only use it in one box and you have to do it again to get the others on the same level. So after the first level up I need to choose do I want speed or accuracy... in which it only gives me +5. BH you get both at +10 for doing the same amount of xp.

You also commented how BH's get less xp per kill. True if you use LLC or Scatter Pistols. You know why, because those guns are higher damage. Try killing a big animal with a carbine and see how long it takes. The LLC has higher damage so you are expected to kill more to gain xp. With carbine the damage is low and HAM penalties are so high that its difficult to kill anything.

Regarding BH's don't have the option to pursue any other profession because of the used up skill points is a silly excuse. The whole skill point and combination of marksman and scout to become BH doesn't make sense. Your expertise in a particular weapon should be based on the amount of experience you have with it! Yes carbineers have the defensive edge, but if you look at speed and accuracy BH has the slight advantage. A level I BH carbine is better than a level 2 carbineer because just hopping one level gives you +10 in both accuracy and speed with 1/2 the XP points. If it were based on that Master carbineer should be 4x better than BH carbine.

I love this game, but a lot of things don't make sense. I know you guys are defensive about your profession because you've pursued it, but it doesn't justify the bonus you get to similar weapons for having 1/4 the xp and non-comparable combat XP.

Devs should understand that BH's are already compensated by their special weapons, but also understand that they use the same carbines as anyone else and difference in very small to a master carbineer. Master Carbineers being slightly better than BH carbine is not enough. Devs just decided to make BH's baddass and give some arbitrary speed and accuracy to BH carbine. That's dumb logic!

Just FYI.. I have only seen 5-10 master carbineers on Valcyn. People avoid the profession like a plague because you work hard at it without big rewards. Everyone on Valcyn are either commandos or BH's. If BH's were that good and hard to attain there should have been something to make the ratio better. Now imagine if everyone ran around as Jedi's what fun would the game be. Watch the movies, how many BH's roamed the streets? BH's should be an elite elite profession where there should only be 1/4 the current number of them running around. If that was the case then it is justifyable for them to be God.

Ok ok. Time to go over your crap again, since you don't seem to get a point through your head once, or twice, or three times or...ok lets get it over with.

"...Regarding how fast I can get through scouting... hmmm its just time.. I've got everything in scout but trapping. I also have marksman. Its grinding like any other profession. I'm just saying once you get to Novice BH its easy rolling because no more combat xp to deal with. I'd like to see you go up Master Carbineer and say that its faster than BH. Beginner professions like master marksman / scout I can do in a weeks time now that I know the strategy. Carbine tree's are shared xp points so if you gain 120k xp you can only use it in one box and you have to do it again to get the others on the same level. So after the first level up I need to choose do I want speed or accuracy... in which it only gives me +5. BH you get both at +10 for doing the same amount of xp..."

Lets take this part first. "...So after the first level up I need to choose do I want speed or accuracy... in which it only gives me +5. BH you get both at +10 for doing the same amount of xp..." In total, Carbineers get more skill mods overall. If you can count, so theres no real argument there, and the current speed cap makes BH's and Carbineers end up at the cap with a fast enough weapon.

Now lets move to this section. "...Regarding how fast I can get through scouting... hmmm its just time.. I've got everything in scout but trapping. I also have marksman. Its grinding like any other profession. I'm just saying once you get to Novice BH its easy rolling because no more combat xp to deal with..." Now that you know an exploit, sure its fast. If you dont know an exploit your a loser with no life. Most people don't play 24/7 like you must. Master Marksman alone can even take a while if your a new character.

Next..."...I'm just saying once you get to Novice BH its easy rolling because no more combat xp to deal with. I'd like to see you go up Master Carbineer and say that its faster than BH. Beginner professions like master marksman / scout I can do in a weeks time now that I know the strategy. Carbine tree's are shared xp points so if you gain 120k xp you can only use it in one box and you have to do it again to get the others on the same level..." Really its not easy rolling. By the way, BH isn't supposed to be a sole profession. The point is to mix it with Carbineer/Pistoleer. That makes it even harder and skill points are lost about 10x faster. Sure no more Combat XP but you try getting Master BH with the Investigation tree. Yeah tell me when you do that in a #*(@ month. Thats our combat tree. Master Carbineer is easier in my opinion. With Carbineer you can get new shots, like Cripple. You only get KD's in BH. I rest that case.

Next? "...You also commented how BH's get less xp per kill. True if you use LLC or Scatter Pistols. You know why, because those guns are higher damage. Try killing a big animal with a carbine and see how long it takes. The LLC has higher damage so you are expected to kill more to gain xp. With carbine the damage is low and HAM penalties are so high that its difficult to kill anything..." Lets put it this way. BH HAS NO DAMAGE SPECIALS. WE ONLY GET KD'S SO WERE WORSE OFF. By the way, you get a major XP decrease with a Laser Carbine at BH Carbine 2. So your weapon theroy doesn't work. And your low damage thing is hurting yourself. Were using the same weapon fool.

Complaint #2894 from CarbineMaster: Regarding BH's don't have the option to pursue any other profession because of the used up skill points is a silly excuse. The whole skill point and combination of marksman and scout to become BH doesn't make sense. Your expertise in a particular weapon should be based on the amount of experience you have with it! Yes carbineers have the defensive edge, but if you look at speed and accuracy BH has the slight advantage. A level I BH carbine is better than a level 2 carbineer because just hopping one level gives you +10 in both accuracy and speed with 1/2 the XP points. If it were based on that Master carbineer should be 4x better than BH carbine. Ok. BH's can only take up one other Master. Thats it. They can Master Carbine and BH Carbine. NOTHING ELSE. They are left with 0 skill points. So its not a silly excuse. BH may have a slight advantage with speed, but Carbineers need Carbine IV. BH's need Master Marksman/Master Scout. When Carbineers have to do that, then you can talk to me about an unfair advantage. And something you may not know, a Master Carbineer is about 4x better than an Investigator.

Oh another? I love this game, but a lot of things don't make sense. I know you guys are defensive about your profession because you've pursued it, but it doesn't justify the bonus you get to similar weapons for having 1/4 the xp and non-comparable combat XP. Lets put it this way. Investigation is our Combat XP and is 20x harder so please never talk about that again. Also, we had to do more work than a Carbineer so using the weapon excuse is stupid. We had to do that same tree, giving us the qualifactaions, so it makes sense we can use Carbineer weapons...I mean really, are you that dumb?

And the last complaint. (Thank god) Devs should understand that BH's are already compensated by their special weapons, but also understand that they use the same carbines as anyone else and difference in very small to a master carbineer. Master Carbineers being slightly better than BH carbine is not enough. Devs just decided to make BH's baddass and give some arbitrary speed and accuracy to BH carbine. That's dumb logic! Let me say this. If your comparing an Investigator to a Master Carbineer, the Master Carbineer is going to win everytime. If your comparing a Master Carbineer to an Investigator/Carbineer, the BH is going to win. He did more work for his XP, doing the Master Scout and extra BH tree. And the same weapon comment HAS TO BE THE DUMBEST thing I have ever heard. WE GOT THE SAME QUALAFACTION and there is no BH Carbine, so what are we going to do, use our fingers!? You get more mods so dont tell me about the Speed and Accuracy of BH Carbine.

Before crying for a BH carbine nerf look at all the thing you can do alongside master carbineer if you don't decide to go the BH road.

You can be Master carbineer/Master CH and have enough pets left for First aid 4 and organic chemistry 4 ...

You can be Master carbineer and master Doctor and walk around all day long wearing composite armor and suffer no huge penalty from it...

Yes you can go BH if you want to go the damage way, but it is not the only option and imo the others are at least as appealing ( more I would say....)