Carbineer Archive
Thread: crippling shot uh ? can't get what is special with that one...
Rorenikibi
Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:36 am
#53
I can still get them, though. The downside is they are about all I can get.
I had a run in last week before I went on vacation against a Rifleman/CM and even through the poison and disease, I at least sent him to the cloner first. I was trying for the Scatter Mind kill, but when he started popping the Jawa at me, little blue 636's started appearing over my head. I doubletapped blue milk and switched to FullAutoSingle2 and landed the Dizzy. One ChargeShot later, the FOTM was flopping and I used Scatter2 for the fast kill and DB.
Unfortunately, I took it hard on the noggin from a GTEFing Imperial who hit me with a token Mind hit for the incap and DB.
She was wearing a Master Musician title. Very embarassing...
jfang
Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:38 am
#54
TAfirehawk wrote:
Rifleman no longer bother me much, but those darn CM still rule.....
AND the Devs are quite stern about NOT nerfing them.....goodness.....
But hopefully something else in the Combat Balance will knock the CM down about 5 pegs
I dislike it when somebody mentions combat medics outside the combat medic forum. I feel compelledto chime in aboutthem but it is not an appropriate venue... In short though, as I believe stated by the devs at the fan fest, combat medicsmay have some issues, but if they exist they are more of a byproduct of bugs and other issues in the system than a reflection on combat medics themselves. And even so, there are many counterbalances to combat medics in the current system which may or may not be adequate.
If you want to start a conversation about combat medics, I would be more than happy to converse about it on the combat medic forum if you start a thread. Just keep in mind that we are very touchy about trolls there (a byproduct for when literally 3/4 of the posts there were from various people flaming others), so be sure to be civil in tone, not exaggerate your numbers, and not flame. (And even then, there is about a 90% chanceit will degenerate into a flame fest after about 10 posts and be locked down...)
Unless of course you *really* want to start a combat medic conversation in the carbineer forums. 
Edit: The offer extends to you as well, Rorenikibi.
Message Edited by jfang on 06-14-2004 11:40 AM
Rorenikibi
Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:50 am
#55
Ah, don't worry about us. We've got enough issues in here to try and work out without getting into a forumfire fight over another profession.
If its the case that the issues that allow CMs to wipe our HAM bars to the tune of 1000 points a tick are the result of the same issues that allow crafters to create 90% resist armor, so be it.
It doesn't make living with those issues any more pleasant.
jfang
Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:51 am
#56
Rorenikibi wrote:
Ah, don't worry about us. We've got enough issues in here to try and work out without getting into a forumfire fight over another profession.
If its the case that the issues that allow CMs to wipe our HAM bars to the tune of 1000 points a tick are the result of the same issues that allow crafters to create 90% resist armor, so be it.
It doesn't make living with those issues any more pleasant.
Agreed. How many days until the combat revamp?
TAfirehawk
Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:09 am
#57
Rorenikibi wrote:
jfang wrote:
Rorenikibi wrote:
Ah, don't worry about us. We've got enough issues in here to try and work out without getting into a forumfire fight over another profession.
If its the case that the issues that allow CMs to wipe our HAM bars to the tune of 1000 points a tick are the result of the same issues that allow crafters to create 90% resist armor, so be it.
It doesn't make living with those issues any more pleasant.
Agreed. How many days until the combat revamp?
More than I care to acknowledge while sober.
I will say it...TOO LONG... 
No really I figure a min of 10 weeks and that is if everything goes smooth.......WHOA.....what was I thinking......lets try 14 weeks
MannyCalevera
Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:50 am
#58
Yes, against melee professions or profs without mitigation, i easily do over 1500 pvp damage with a laser carbine while they are KDed.... this is before their armor is brought into acount however, so for the most part you wont get that kind of damage. However crippling shot does have its uses, it allows us carbineers to kill nasty things like NS elders quickly
EisMan_Buckeye
Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:18 pm
#59
NS Eldershave heavy armor with 25% resists to energy, blast, and restraint (I think it's just those 3, might be one more). It's that damn dirty heavy armor that gets us.
MannyCalevera
Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:12 pm
#60
NS elders have 25% heavy armor to energy to start. Blasting away at her with one of ben'jais dmg sliced laser carbs with cripple shot i can hit for around 1k dmg/shot, and i usually keep her bled with an enhanced e-11. I am bh also, so i can kite her fairly well and if she gets too close i can use burstrun. Now once you get them down to 1/2 their health or so their armor starts to decay. I can do an elder in under 20 minutes if the conditions are right, and i dont run into groups of more NS while i am running away. Got a nice vibro axe wtih +25 polearm accuracy the other night off one
TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:07 am
#61
MannyCalevera wrote:
Yes, against melee professions or profs without mitigation, i easily do over 1500 pvp damage with a laser carbine while they are KDed.... this is before their armor is brought into acount however, so for the most part you wont get that kind of damage. However crippling shot does have its uses, it allows us carbineers to kill nasty things like NS elders quickly
What are you smokin'? Most of those Elders should be 90-100% resistant to all attacks from us and med-heavy armor.....QUICKLY???
Hmmmm
We had a Spiderclan Elder in the Dath Outpost last night.....350k HAM, heavy armor, only weakness 80% heat. Of course my EE3 didn't do **edit** but energy was 100% resist....After 30-40 of us gang banged the Elder, which she had about 150k wounds, for 10 minutes she dropped and went POOF....nobody got loot as she disappeared.
TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:49 am
#62
Check out THIS elder
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=84419&poll_id=0&category_id=20&warned=y
Kaelle_DB
Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:09 am
#63
Hehe Eisman can attest to the abusability/overpoweredness of the CMs. Ran into him at the imp outpost on dant last night. A rebel cm kept clone tefing a group of 10-15 buffed imps until we had no mind left, we had a doc, but there's no way a doc can go around healing fast enough to keep up.
I hate CMs, I hope they are nerfed to the point where their poisons tick for 5 damage and they have to be applied withing 5 meters of each target on a 5 minute delay with a ham cost of 500.
jfang
Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:19 am
#64
Let's see... Where was that post... Aha, here it is...
jfang wrote:
I dislike it when somebody mentions combat medics outside the combat medic forum. I feel compelledto chime in aboutthem but it is not an appropriate venue... In short though, as I believe stated by the devs at the fan fest, combat medicsmay have some issues, but if they exist they are more of a byproduct of bugs and other issues in the system than a reflection on combat medics themselves. And even so, there are many counterbalances to combat medics in the current system which may or may not be adequate.
If you want to start a conversation about combat medics, I would be more than happy to converse about it on the combat medic forum if you start a thread. Just keep in mind that we are very touchy about trolls there (a byproduct for when literally 3/4 of the posts there were from various people flaming others), so be sure to be civil in tone, not exaggerate your numbers, and not flame. (And even then, there is about a 90% chanceit will degenerate into a flame fest after about 10 posts and be locked down...)
Unless of course you *really* want to start a combat medic conversation in the carbineer forums.
Edit: The offer extends to you as well, Rorenikibi.
Message Edited by jfang on 06-14-2004 11:40 AM
The offer extends to you too, Kaelle_DB.
EisMan_Buckeye
Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:29 am
#65
TAfirehawk wrote:
Check out THIS elder
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=84419&poll_id=0&category_id=20&warned=y
YIKES!
As they say in Monty Python... RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!