Carbineer Archive

I'm on Valcyn. I have an elite that came out stock 3.5/105-180. Got a speed slice down to 2.4. I can slap a damage powerup and get a 2.4/ 121-240 weapon--not bad and certainly better than a stock laser.

Id like to know how they boosted your Min damage so much.

most people dont' know how this game works and posts whatever comes out of there combat box. in order to do 400 damage in pvp, without specials and through (i'll be nice) 50% composite armor. The gun would need to go through these calculations to achieve 400 flat damage through armor in pvp to a player. SayingD is the amount of PvE damage that the above gun would do.

D x .25 (amount of damage done after pvp reduction) x .5 (amount of damage done after armor) = 400

Simplified to:

D x .125 = 400

Answer:

D = 3200

Such math proves that most people who play this game really don't know what the game mechanics are. If this guy can hit for 3200 flat in pve without using specials, he could instakill anything using specials since he'd hit for 3200 x 7.5 = 24,000 using cripple shot.

hmm i think ppl have completly forgoten ee3s and dh17s completly.

They do like 100-200 damage usually, and thats compared to the elites 110-180 with light armor peircing. Dh17 takes 1 tissue, ee3 takes 4 total, and elite takes 5 total. Now, if u can do the math thats 2 very nice guns for 1 elites tissue.

Also, tissues dont add to minimum. There is no way, with a powerup and an uber slice, that an elite can double in the min damage, hope u guys figured that out by now. ok u have 110-180 damage, a 120 tissue would bring this to 110-300 damage. An uber slice- 140-390 damage. Min max powerup 33% min 16 max would bring this party to 180-450 damage. Now u say there is no slice, so ur talkin 110-300 damage and add a powerup. Use math its your friend, there is no way to get min that high, without a stock, and u cant have ham that low either.

This is carbineer, we are the worst of both worlds, not the best

I use a Laser for my main and an EE3 for my backup. I just had a Laser Carbine built with some +55 Krayt tissues I had.

Pre-slice 39-304 @ 3.1

Post 25% damage slice 47-380 @ 3.1

I don't know what this will be with a good powerup, but I suspect I will be just over 500 on the high end. I like the idea of more consistent damage with an Elite, but since the Laser is AP2 and they both do the same type of damage, it just seems the natural choice.

I myself have a laser at 68-467, forget the speed, 3 something, with a 33 power up the max damage is 604 I think. I find myself using the EE-3 I have more often due to the speed which is at 1.5. I cannot stand the delay on my laser carbine, maybe I am just slow, +45 carbine speed, but it seems to take forever inbetween cripple shots. If you are curious, Romy on Bloodfin makes all my carbines, they are the best or near the best I have seen. I am definately in the market for a good Elite, I have plenty of 40ish/50ish tissues to use but as said above I am waiting on the materials to errrmmmm materialize. A question to you masters out there, will my laser carbines delays substancially diminish as I get to master, I have one speed block left. Thanks. Grab

Oh yea hehe, right now Romy has 1.9 speed! laser carbs at 330 max damage, only cost ya 5 mil hehe.Grab

my laser carbine is 643 damage 2.5 speed cost me 20k cuz i had my own materials

btw without a powerup its 483 damage. but thats like +100 then most laser carbines.

SeaRaptor/Felton, that was a fantastic post....extremely educational.

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ogreb42 wrote:

How exactly do you manage to do 400 damage to a target wearing full composite armor? For ease of calculations, lets say its only 50% resist. The AR of the elite is the same as the AR of composite, so theres no loss or gain there. After the 75% damage reduction for PvP, you'd have to hit for 1600 damage to get 400 damage to your target...before considering the armor's resists. Assuming you read the damage from your combat spam, the numbers up to this point are correct. If you claim to have read the floating number, then you must consider the target's armor.This would mean that your sliced Elite carbine can hit for at least3200 damage...without using any special attacks. You, my friend, put the commandos to shame. Crippling shot has at least a 4x damage multiplier, so you could theortically do 12,800 damage in one shot.

Either I misread your post, you misunderstood the facts in game, or you're making something up.

I have strong feelings as to which answer it is.

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No need to be so hostile. As carbineers most of the time you open with a chargeshot anyhow. I Know i do and i have done over 500 damage using that chargeshot which has a much lower damage modifier than my followup shot. then while they are down you get a 2x for the prone posture and bypas some armor it seems

I've been talking with weaponsmiths on my server and this gun is going to cost a bundle and they dont think even with +80-100 tissue I will get quite those stats.

Has anyone else had luck getting a weapon even close to this?