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Rorenikibi

Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:23 pm

Being a Carbineer always feels more like a chess player than a spammer. You've got to think three moves ahead to compete and 10 moves ahead to win.

Captain Janu Hull CFA-7
In the event of an emergency, this pilot's ego may be used as a floatation device.

La-grange

Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:42 am

#41

The DH-17 is a good carbine but I prefer my 2.2 AS elite (form fitted stock, speed slice, normal barrel. 208-134 dmg) or damage sliced E-11 carbine over a damage sliced DH-17. AP1 really helps when the resists of mob's crawl above 25%.

"Bet I can kill me before you can kill me."
Elder Carbineer and other stuff
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TAfirehawk

Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:52 am

#42

PST.....AP1 has no affect on resists, it is only for AR1/2/3

Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

TAfirehawk

Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:07 am

#43

jfang wrote:

TAfirehawk wrote:

PST.....AP1 has no affect on resists, it is only for AR1/2/3

My impression was that AP1 against an AR0 enemy would increase the damage by 50%. In which case it would still help against a 25% resistance enemy (not by nature ofan AP vs AR comparison). But then again, there are a ton of rumors floating around about how AP and AR do or do not work, so I never really figuredout how it really does work...

Well the increase is 25% to start with, but it has nothing to do with Resist %......so mentioning that is VERY misleading, it is all about AR/AP ratio

And yes there are rumors that I hope put to bed with some more testing this weekend.....

Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

EisMan_Buckeye

Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:08 am

#44

AP1 vs. AR0 is 1.25 damage, not 1.5 damage. As us engineers allways do lol, let's look at the numbers...

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Target: AR0, 25% resist

Weapon 1: AP0, X damage -- X * 1 * .75 = .75X

Weapon 2: AP1, X damage -- X * 1.25 * .75 = .9375X

Damage ratio: .9375X / .75X = 1.25 = Weapon 2 does 25% more damage

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Target: AR1, 25% resist

Weapon 1: X * .5 * .75 = .375X

Weapon 2: X * 1* .75 = .75X

Damage Ratio: .75X / .375X = 2.0 = Weapon 2 does 100% more damage = Weapon 2 does twice as much damage

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As you can see, there is no big suprise here.

Bottom Line: Higher AP is allways better when comparing 2 weapons with equal damage stats and the same damage type, even more so as the AR of the target goes up.

EDIT: For a more in depth look at the comaprison of AP vs. resistance to damage types, I have a reply on one of these threads about the EE3 and how it is not allways better to use one vs. a heat vulnerable target. The numbers are quite interesting.

Message Edited by EisMan_Buckeye on 06-11-2004 01:12 PM

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EisMan Buckeye [COG]
Mercenaries do it for money
[Master of Carbines] [Retired Mercenary]
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TAfirehawk

Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:20 am

#45

EisMan_Buckeye wrote:

As us engineers allways do lol, let's look at the numbers...

WOOT

Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

EisMan_Buckeye

Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:55 am

#46

TAfirehawk wrote:

LMAO. What is that? Some sort of totem pole of laughter?

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EisMan Buckeye [COG]
Mercenaries do it for money
[Master of Carbines] [Retired Mercenary]
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SpunkyKuma

Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:02 pm

#47

LOL! This profession forum's better than most of the other professions- we're always crunching numbers, comparing DPS, discussing tactics and doing totem poles. Keep on entertaining and posting wisely, rather than those game complaint posts that are in other professions.

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jfang

Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:16 pm

#48

SpunkyKuma wrote:
LOL! This profession forum's better than most of the other professions- we're always crunching numbers, comparing DPS, discussing tactics and doing totem poles. Keep on entertaining and posting wisely, rather than those game complaint posts that are in other professions.

Let's see if I can do this right...

NURF carbenires... I mean carbineers! I mean one came up to my base and... started shooting. Before we knew it, me and my friend... oh I mean and my 20 hard core double master elite guildies... were all dizzy. The next thing I knew, we were all on the ground and couldn't stand up. We must have been flopping for 20 seconds... I mean5 minutes. My friend... I mean one of us managed to stand up, but took one look at this carbineer, and burst ran away. After I got up I only had a few health points left. I used a stim B, but it only cleared 1/2... I mean 200 of my health. Then, before I could do anything else, he did some other funky attack, and I was kneeling. Of course I didn't try to kneel, he must have taken advantage of an exploit. Of course I tried to stand up, and I was on the group again (that exploit has been reported to the devs, right?)!After that, he shot me until I was dead.

If a single carbineer can do that to both, I mean all of us, how can you possible call them balanced. Nurf carbineers!!!111!!!

Hmm, I think I need more practice at flaming nerf rants.

EisMan_Buckeye

Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:24 pm

#49

TAfirehawk wrote:

That is a highly engineered conduit for The Force

ROTFLMFAO! Please! No more coduit jokes! I hated hydrology. I'm a structures guy, tell me it is a steel reinforced concrete column, used to support the Jedi Temple or something. Anything but a conduit.

By the way, what field are you in TA?

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EisMan Buckeye [COG]
Mercenaries do it for money
[Master of Carbines] [Retired Mercenary]
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TAfirehawk

Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:17 pm

#50

ME from Purdue in '95

Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

TAfirehawk

Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:21 am

#51

EisMan_Buckeye wrote:

TAfirehawk wrote:

LMAO. What is that? Some sort of totem pole of laughter?

That is a highly engineered conduit for The Force

Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

jfang

Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:30 am

#52

TAfirehawk wrote:

EisMan_Buckeye wrote:

TAfirehawk wrote:

LMAO. What is that? Some sort of totem pole of laughter?

That is a highly engineered conduit for The Force

It looks like a timeline. On the bottom you start with Anakin as a child (not the icon, I know, work with me). Then he becomes a man. Then he becomes Darth Vader. Then he becomes a strange representation within the force.

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