Carbineer Archive
Thread: New Weapons Info from Tiggs TC5, E-11 love
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TAfirehawk
Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:48 am
#27
GeneralCho wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
How many different weapons do you folks want? I mean really how manyUBER Carbines can you use at once? How many do you want to carry and choose from in any given situation? All existing Carbines will have a specific and important use after the CU.....and all damage types are to be represented, 2 main and 4 elemental.
All your arguements for Carbineers getting all Carbines is childish, borish,illogicaland NOT going to happen. Deal with it or there is the door. I am not going to kiss everybody's butts here anymore on this subject.
A) Nobody asked you to kiss butt. In fact, none of these arguments are directed at you.
B) They all bring up valid points. We've been playing a game now for two years that the devs are now admitting they've honked up. All major combat profs are gettingupgraded (JEDI,Riflemen, TK, Pistols, Commando) EXCEPT for Carbineer.
C)childish, borish,illogicaland NOT going to happen - Who made you forum god? This is a place to toss ideas back and forth. You should be fostering new ideas, not shooting them down and bowing to Sony on every argument.
Jose Kinematix
Master Carbineer
Master Bounty Hunter
1. Sorry the posts that blatantly accused me of being the problem with the new Carbines were deleted from this forum.....so you don't know about those, but trust me PM's and posts here have been sent DIRECTLY AT ME.
2. Ever hear of Publish 7......need I say more....
3. I am allowed my opinion as well and amazingly after I posted that the childish/borish/illogical posters left....well most of them. So why in the world can you sit there and try to CENSOR my opinion?
I bow to SOE on every argument, well you obviously are VERY NEW here.....ROFLMAO....that has to be the joke of the freaking year.
Quandry
Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:39 am
#28
Ta just to clear the air. You are a great represintation of our class. I remember when you first started lurking around on these forums :0) I dont normaly read here unless stuff is going on as most of it is the same old stuff over and over. I have no doubt that you have made all these points to the devs more than once. I dont think they realy hang on your words. In fact they use you to appease the masses and help calm the flames. In return you get access to a few blips of info before us. I can accept that. You can only say what the devs let you say. And they only listen to what they want to hear...That will never change.
I expect the devs and press to spin this upgrade as the best thing sence sliced bread. You can call us winers or what have you. I dont talk about things out side the game here. I dont talk about individuals here. This is a fantisy world. I try to act as if the undesirables around me dont exist....When ignored long enough they alwase go away.
At this point and when i said what i said the damages on all the high end weapons are not set. They wont be final till it actualy goes live. Wich is why i never Once talked about the poor temp stats on those weapons...Like the elite (personaly my favorite carbine).
My issue is on the lack of selection as the other classes. Infact this is not game breaking and as i have for the past 2 years ill still be a carbineer. We were gimped for all this time..
It seems like in a sence there are 2 devs in charge of the ranges professions. One loves rifles and the other loves pistols. They both argue about new things they would like for their classes. So they both get what they want the vote the others stuff in. Then they toss sompthing left over into the carbineer and call it even. Untill the devs to sompthing to distort this image its what i got. Everything the devs do to carbineers seems an after thought.
Even when they fixed our specials....They made hotfixes for eyeshot and the ap on the t21 and countless other class weapons spacific fixes to rifleman and pistoleer. Sevral months later they finaly make a half ars pass to make our specials do some of the things they were suppost to do sence day 1. If the fix worked great...if not to bad. Example leg shot 3. SOme dev was looking at that special when they tried to fix it. Had the code fresh in their head when they tried to fix all the other specials. They made one push to live with the "working" specials. They actualy got most of them prety close to as right as they could get with the system. It would have ben extreamly easy to go back for a couple hours and polish off the last specials that dident get compleatly fixed. Heck you gave them the spacific info as to what each special did and how.....We could not have made it more simple for them. They alwase ask for data when we report bugs....but they only read what they want to see.
I dont listen to the devs public relations spam. Its trash...Like the quote floating around about "we are getting great feedback about the cu" or how ever it was...pure bs. All these concerned caring dev posts. Yes i believe Tiggs and the others involved in the pr care and all...but their hands are tied at some point. So i can only listen to what they say with a grane of salt. But the devs actions that they do to the game its self....That shows their true fealings. That shows what they realy want the game to play like and how much they are realy going to invest in it...Shows their true commitment. And from what they have shown me is a carbineer is just a class in between a Rifleman and a Pistoleer. We are coded as if we like to shoot things but if we were serious about it we would pick the true weapons and go rifles or pistols. Carbineer is treated like a filler profession and im sick of it.
Nothing about or against you TA, i respect you. Your better than some of the other coro's...nothing you can do about the problem its just the way it is. I just wont act like i dont see it.
I expect the devs and press to spin this upgrade as the best thing sence sliced bread. You can call us winers or what have you. I dont talk about things out side the game here. I dont talk about individuals here. This is a fantisy world. I try to act as if the undesirables around me dont exist....When ignored long enough they alwase go away.
At this point and when i said what i said the damages on all the high end weapons are not set. They wont be final till it actualy goes live. Wich is why i never Once talked about the poor temp stats on those weapons...Like the elite (personaly my favorite carbine).
My issue is on the lack of selection as the other classes. Infact this is not game breaking and as i have for the past 2 years ill still be a carbineer. We were gimped for all this time..
It seems like in a sence there are 2 devs in charge of the ranges professions. One loves rifles and the other loves pistols. They both argue about new things they would like for their classes. So they both get what they want the vote the others stuff in. Then they toss sompthing left over into the carbineer and call it even. Untill the devs to sompthing to distort this image its what i got. Everything the devs do to carbineers seems an after thought.
Even when they fixed our specials....They made hotfixes for eyeshot and the ap on the t21 and countless other class weapons spacific fixes to rifleman and pistoleer. Sevral months later they finaly make a half ars pass to make our specials do some of the things they were suppost to do sence day 1. If the fix worked great...if not to bad. Example leg shot 3. SOme dev was looking at that special when they tried to fix it. Had the code fresh in their head when they tried to fix all the other specials. They made one push to live with the "working" specials. They actualy got most of them prety close to as right as they could get with the system. It would have ben extreamly easy to go back for a couple hours and polish off the last specials that dident get compleatly fixed. Heck you gave them the spacific info as to what each special did and how.....We could not have made it more simple for them. They alwase ask for data when we report bugs....but they only read what they want to see.
I dont listen to the devs public relations spam. Its trash...Like the quote floating around about "we are getting great feedback about the cu" or how ever it was...pure bs. All these concerned caring dev posts. Yes i believe Tiggs and the others involved in the pr care and all...but their hands are tied at some point. So i can only listen to what they say with a grane of salt. But the devs actions that they do to the game its self....That shows their true fealings. That shows what they realy want the game to play like and how much they are realy going to invest in it...Shows their true commitment. And from what they have shown me is a carbineer is just a class in between a Rifleman and a Pistoleer. We are coded as if we like to shoot things but if we were serious about it we would pick the true weapons and go rifles or pistols. Carbineer is treated like a filler profession and im sick of it.
Nothing about or against you TA, i respect you. Your better than some of the other coro's...nothing you can do about the problem its just the way it is. I just wont act like i dont see it.
Confusion12345
Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:24 pm
#29
TAfirehawk wrote:
All I can say is that it is difficult to continue to portray a positive light on the CU after the way it has been handled the last 6+ months.....
Take that however you want.....because I am a player of SWG just like each one of you here. The only difference is that you all THINK I get info and thus I deserve to be attacked around here.
But.....I lost my punching bag 
ManSquatch
Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:55 am
#30
My first prof was carbineer way back in October 2003. I have since played about half the professions in the game and in each case spent a good amount of time on the forums learning their ins and outs. (No I am not a hologrinder)
If you guys think TA is a bad correspondent go check some of the other Forums. He has gone above and beyond himself in how he has fought for you and how he has set up the testing for the Carbineer specials and the profession as a whole. When I get some time I am going to suggest to Tanks in the BH forum that he set up the specials and various other new CURB things as individual threads just as TA has done.
If you guys really want to have fun in this game and in PVP then you should take what TA has done and start testing everything. Figure out what does what, what the DMG mods are, effects, delays, etc. Get into some Test Center PVP and figure out what works and what doesn't. Don't sit in here and whine about not getting some new carbine, it is just ridiculous.
Giva TA hard facts so he can report them and get them fixed now, don't just run around ranting because you are not going to be a cut above everyone else. The whole point of the CURB is that all the profs (with the exception of Jedi) are more or less equal. Embrace that and move on to something more constuctive.
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