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Thread: I LOVE CARBINEER CONTINUED

mack53
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:04 pm
#27






DarkNexus1014 wrote:





AriasImmortal wrote:
I think your either delusional or the people you were fighting were complete idiots with **edit** templates. I mean, BH/TKA/medic? there's not enough skillpoints in the game to do that and be effective.

Believe me, you haven't even hit the tip of the PvP iceberg. You start going up against PvP veterans who know all the tactics, and you'll find yourself getting killed far more than you kill others.

I know tons of people with composite armor who suck ass in PvP, so that in itself says nothing. If you can honestly tell me you can beat a Fencer or a rifleman 1v1 in PvP in an equal battle (that is to say, you both are buffed/unbuffed or armored/unarmored) then i will applaud you. But until then, i think you're making your first PvP event as a BH/carbineer WAY out of proportion. also, you have to realize that the only thing making you as good as you believe yourself to be is the BH mods. The specials you use don't matter, its the speed/accuracy mods here. I don't have anywhere NEAR the speed/accuracy that you have, so i rarely use carbines in PvP. I stick to my swords or my newly discovered favorite the stun baton (yay fencers!). If i were a BH/carbineer i'd probably do a lot better with my carbines than i do now, but i like to be able to stand still and fight people... running around annoys me.

Just putting things in perspective for you. You are not half as badass as you think. And i'm 100% sure i know more about carbineer than you do, so don't delude yourself here. Once you start PvPing on a regular basis (i.e. i've been PvPing about 85% of my time in the last 4 months) you'll realize what's good and what's not. and carbineer is not good.

but you CAN defeat pistoleers and pikemen on a regular basis...






I've beaten a few Rifleman/Fencers before


Unbuffed and unarmed, killed him in 3 seconds... Fire Knockdown, Crippling Shot x 2.


Fact is, with BH/Carbineer I have HUGE accuracy... and I guess luck kept him from dodging my attacks lol...


Also beat a Teras Kasi Master, Rifleman something (he wasn't a master yet tho)


Also beat a Teras Kasi Master, almost master Pikeman


And so far, I've pwned every swordsman I've fought


Can't beat my friend who is a Master Pistoleer/BH pistol 0-0-4-0 though... he is a complete badass


I think it's really funny that someone can say this template sucks and this template is uber... I really think the player behind it matters more...


Although I gotta say, I got one-shot killed by a rifleman in an unbuffed/unarmed fight, and it sucked a lot lol, so maybe I'm just deluding MYSELF too





Finally someone who knows its not just the speacials but the person to.




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DarkNexus1014
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:05 pm
#28






AriasImmortal wrote:
...I can say, though, that we are now above the level of pikeman, and even pistoleer. But that still puts us in the bottom 50% of elite combat classes...Offensive abilities only help you if you don't die in the first 10 seconds of battle. And frankly, i don't see carbineers being able to do that very well. BH/carbineers are good because they can kill people in those first 10 seconds, but i will guarantee that if a (non-pikeman) melee prof catches up with a kiting BH the BH dies. I've seen it happen to many times to count. And i've been frustrated with the ineffectiveness of carbineer in solo PvP as a whole for nearly 8 months now...




I will have to agree with this though... against a fully buffed, fully armored opponent, our damage is simply outclassed...

IMO, armor is way too powerful... it really sucks when you have a weapon damage type that loses 70-80% of its damage when shooting at someone.

I've seen fights take upwards of 10 minutes, with both guys just beating on each other. I mean, that's ridiculous... A 1 on 1 fight should take no more than 3-5 minutes, tops, unless there is some serious intervention there, and then it wouldn't be 1 on 1

On the other hand, I've personally never been in a fight that lasted over a minute... if I haven't managed to kill my opponent by then, he is already wiping my blood off of his super-powerful armor lol



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AriasImmortal
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:51 pm
#29

i've beaten fencer/riflemen before, w/o the benefit of massive accuracy. but then i did have the benefit of massive counterattack and intimidate .

it really is the player behind the template, but the majority of PvP on my server is done fully buffed, fully armored. In this playing field, those with stun weapons usually win the most. From my experiences carbineer is NOT a great PvP profession. it's more like a mediocre PvP profession. But in the right hands it does very well.



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Darth_Doofus
Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:14 am
#30

Carbineers can Pwn rifleman at master. Our accuracy lets us shoot past most defense mods, especially with BH carbine tree. I've mowed down swordsman at 1-3-3-4 easy, and i can hit rifleman about 1/3 and fencers 1/4 of the time



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