Carbineer Archive
Thread: BH/Pistoleer vs. BH/Carbineer
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TAfirehawk
Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:54 am
#27
Grimbot wrote:
I think both pistols and carbines are useful. Currently I'm MBH, Pistols 0044, Carbines 4400. With a good gun I don't even need specials most of the time PvE. If I'm up against something tough I usually go dizzy, fire knockdown, and then lay on every carbine bleed I've got. By the time the mob is up, I've got my pistol out and I set them aflame with torso shot and lay on some pistol bleeds if I have time. If they've got a low mind pool I eyeshot them to extintion. If not I fanshot 'em or switch back to carbine for cripple shot. If things get really nasty I can always whip out the LLC.
I haven't done a lot of PvP, but I've been fairly successful lately with the PvP I've engaged in. For the first time in this game I feel like I can hold my own. And anything that I can't hold my own against, I can at least mess it up enough to give myself an escape route. Between BH, carbines, and pistols you get a pretty handy array of special shots. I'll never have a DE-10, but I think the tradeoff is worth it for me.
I recommend dropping down to 3400 Carbineer as that last box is totally worthless......and that would allow you to pickup Novice Medic or Novice Brawler. The tough part there is chosing between Stim B's and Intimidate.....
Feyrbrand
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:03 pm
#28
TAfirehawk wrote:
I agree 100% on the Stim B's but I like to stay out of Melee Range so I don't always get to use Intimidate
Intimidate has a range of 33 meters. Well, that's how far I've been able to apply the state on them.
La-grange
Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:14 pm
#29
Brainplay wrote:
You cant slash a fencers CoB and dodge with a pistol but you can with a carbine (stun state).
Wanna bet on that one. Of course my template is master pistoleer/bh 0-0-4-0/smuggler 0-0-4-0/commando 0-0-1-0. Against defense stackers I can hit about 1out of 3-5 times. Perfectly acceptable but I don't expect to be winning over defense stackers any time soon. About the only real strength of that template is that I can pull out the lag pistol and spam last ditch at the cap (murderous on turrets). Last ditch is a pretty usefull shot. My scatters hit just as hard as most carbines with that shot. Or when I see a jedi coming torwards me for an easy kill I hit feign death and log out 
Message Edited by La-grange on 08-18-2004 04:18 PM
Eldudorino
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:07 pm
#30
I've been thinking of 3440 BH, 1420 Carb, MasterPistol.
Nov medic isn't really worth 15SP. Capped on speed in carbs and pistol, good accuracy in both. Crippleshot but no Scatter 2 unless I give up either Inv. or MPistol. All the good pistol specials from BH for PvP, a working dodge. For PvE use mainly carbs, PvP lay on states and then switch to pistol.
Doug4130
Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:53 pm
#31
Hey, I was looking for template suggestions for Carbineers since I was looking into picking it up, a lot of these templates seem pretty useful so I figured I'd throw mine in. BH 0/4/4/0 Pistoleer 0/0/4/4 Smuggler 0/0/4/0 TKA 0/0/0/4 and Novice Commando for blaster pistols.. easier way to level Heavy Weapons instead of using the LLC to get it up in case I ever want master BH, plus it's another damage type. I've been thinking about dropping the pistol stances/novice commando to pick carbineer 0/4/0/0 but I'm not sure about loosing the 40 melee defense.. it comes in hand with pvping. Suggestions?
Bennyboy4308
Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:18 am
#32
In my PvP experience, Just having novice medic and stim Bs isn't very useful. You need at least 0040 (preferably 4040) to make stims worth the SP. Healing 400-600 damage every 5 seconds isn't as useful as healing 1000+ damage. PvE however, stim Bs might still be useful. If you only have 15 SP and you PvP, I highly suggest Novice Brawler.
TAfirehawk
Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:24 am
#33
I agree 100% on the Stim B's but I like to stay out of Melee Range so I don't always get to use Intimidate 
Feyrbrand
Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:22 pm
#34
La-grange wrote:
Brainplay wrote:
You cant slash a fencers CoB and dodge with a pistol but you can with a carbine (stun state).
Wanna bet on that one. Of course my template is master pistoleer/bh 0-0-4-0/smuggler 0-0-4-0/commando 0-0-1-0. Against defense stackers I can hit about 1out of 3-5 times. Perfectly acceptable but I don't expect to be winning over defense stackers any time soon. About the only real strength of that template is that I can pull out the lag pistol and spam last ditch at the cap (murderous on turrets). Last ditch is a pretty usefull shot. My scatters hit just as hard as most carbines with that shot. Or when I see a jedi coming torwards me for an easy kill I hit feign death and log out
Message Edited by La-grange on 08-18-2004 04:18 PM
Well, you could probably hit a Fencer, but you couldn't kill me 'cause I'm da Ginga bread man ^_^
Brainplay
Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:48 am
#35
La-grange wrote:
Wanna bet on that one. Of course my template is master pistoleer/bh 0-0-4-0/smuggler 0-0-4-0/commando 0-0-1-0. Against defense stackers I can hit about 1out of 3-5 times. Perfectly acceptable but I don't expect to be winning over defense stackers any time soon. About the only real strength of that template is that I can pull out the lag pistol and spam last ditch at the cap (murderous on turrets). Last ditch is a pretty usefull shot. My scatters hit just as hard as most carbines with that shot. Or when I see a jedi coming torwards me for an easy kill I hit feign death and log out
Message Edited by La-grange on 08-18-2004 04:18 PM
You're talking about a "smuggler" special while I was talking pure carbineer vs. pistoleer. In this case I'll bite and say, "ok".
Still haven't figured out why commando's get a pistol thats supposed to be a heavy weapon and has no specials for it.
Feign death is gay..nuff said.
p.s.- Ginger bread man eh? Do you know the muffin man?
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