Carbineer Archive

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TAfirehawk wrote:

No problem....Numbers are my game

Although my numbers should always be checked....as we recently found out, LegShot2/3 actually kill faster than the higher DPS shot FullAutoSingle2....before you hit the Speed Cap of course. I have made mistakes in the past and will continue to make them in the future, I am sure the people here will keep me on my toes

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uhh, i got 45% in math lastyear in school so dont look at me when it comes to math

i'm good at speling tho

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Imspaced wrote:

Oh man do I love Carbineer, too bad 85% on up armor Makes my carbine look like a pebble launcher

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heh, i know what you mean, but if you also a master bounty hunter, spray shot has a 7.5 damage multiplyier, on TC2 i was using a 300 max damage laser carbine, doing 130-150 actual damge per shot agaisnt 85% armor, if it was a 701 max damage, i'll feel sorry forwhoever gets whacked by one of them

heh, do the math 701X 7.5 then subtract (average 60% compy to energy) 60% damage, then 75% from the pvp reduction not sure if im correct but i did the math on this computer calc (bear with me) and i got 2356 damage for pvp damage, not knocked down..........hmm i hope i did it right. thats not with the +25% damage added from medium AP agaisnt composite, or the use of average synthsteak in my server (40-45% damage reduction)

edit: iebas this isyour part- math like i said if im wrong its not my fault

Message Edited by mrmark200000 on 09-23-2004 05:59 AM

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TAfirehawk wrote:

I thought SprayShot was a 6.0X Special, but you should ask Tanks.....or get me some real test data

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ugh i hate the flu

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mrmark200000 wrote:

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TAfirehawk wrote:

I thought SprayShot was a 6.0X Special, but you should ask Tanks.....or get me some real test data

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yea me and zhuge will do that, sometime, right now i'm too sick to play swg (flu + allergies with same symptoms suck big time)

ugh i hate the flu

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TAfirehawk wrote:

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mrmark200000 wrote:

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TAfirehawk wrote:

I thought SprayShot was a 6.0X Special, but you should ask Tanks.....or get me some real test data

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yea me and zhuge will do that, sometime, right now i'm too sick to play swg (flu + allergies with same symptoms suck big time)

ugh i hate the flu

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Hope you get to feeling better soon.....each one of those is bad enough by itself, but both has got to really suck, especially if it is keeping you out of SWG.....

And let me know if you want some help with this, I can come to Eclipse or /tell if needed.

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mrmark200000 wrote:

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MehoKaric wrote:

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Shu_ZhugeLiang wrote:

Well as a one year old Carbineer i tell you. I picked up a carbine the first day i started playing and i am yet to drop it, my profession has always been carbineer, always will be. I have an alt character, i tried every profession, Fencer, every FOTM template/ stacking templates nothing even came close to be as fun as Master carbineer/BH. Its just an amazing profession with ALOT of thinking and strategy to it. The only profession i like playing as other then carbineer is commando, which my alt is right now.

Here are a list of my pvp weapons : ( im a carbineer geek so bear with me here lol ;p )

- AKs-74u assualt rifle ( laser carbine ) 376-701 damage, 2.8 speed, 49% wound chance. Equiped with a silver scope and black Stock. Its my fav personal weapon, light enough to carry it around with enough fire power to pierce through anything

- M4 Semi-Automatic Carbine ( elite carbine ) 389-572 damage, 2.1 speed, 50% wound chance. A special ops weapons, Being Semi-Automatic allows for better accuracy, therefore hitting players in the most critical places. ( totaly ignores the migtation )

_ EE3 carbine, 207 mind poison, -1 uses,

I have tons of other carbines above avrage, currently im planning on making enhanced E11 carbine with some 120 max dsmage tissues.

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You realise that that laser will kick twice as much ass against mitigation as the Elite will, right? The Elite is only 10min damage higher.

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my buddy Zhuge wouldnt do pvp unprepared, trust me, next time read stuff completly

trust me zhuge is one of the best pvp'ers i know, he uses his laser carbine for the all melee templates, with spray shot hitting those guys with that carbbin, it will hurt. even with armor, if i get 130 damage through on 85% armor (was hanging out on TC2 with flavious) and that 130 damage was actual damage done, if that was going through 85% armor, think, of the average 60% armor in live, vs a 701 damamage carbine, and spray shot with a 7.5? 6.5 damage modifier? not sure, but yeah, and dont even say it, a PSG would be melted down by the thing in seconds.

edit: got a little enter happy, his elite would do better even though it has 10 more min, because of the closer min-max damage range,

Message Edited by mrmark200000 on 09-21-2004 06:02 AM

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While I don't doubt Zhuge is a great PvP'er, he doesn't understand how AP and Mitigation work if he is using the 389/572 Elite over the 376/701 Laser because of Ranged Mitigation 3. Of course I really question how in the world a Laser has 376 min damage...but if that is correct then after AP and Mitigation 3 the Laser has 552 DPS and the Elite has 426 DPS.

I am an engineer and I love math

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well, on naritus there was a spawn a long time (near release i beleave) ago with resouces of all kinds that had 1000 in every stat, a friend of him saved them for a long time and they used those resources, with the best krayt tissues stock, scope with the 1000 stat resouces to get that. its pretty nifty,

back to sleep i go

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mrmark200000 wrote:

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TAfirehawk wrote:

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mrmark200000 wrote:

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MehoKaric wrote:

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Shu_ZhugeLiang wrote:

Well as a one year old Carbineer i tell you. I picked up a carbine the first day i started playing and i am yet to drop it, my profession has always been carbineer, always will be. I have an alt character, i tried every profession, Fencer, every FOTM template/ stacking templates nothing even came close to be as fun as Master carbineer/BH. Its just an amazing profession with ALOT of thinking and strategy to it. The only profession i like playing as other then carbineer is commando, which my alt is right now.

Here are a list of my pvp weapons : ( im a carbineer geek so bear with me here lol ;p )

- AKs-74u assualt rifle ( laser carbine ) 376-701 damage, 2.8 speed, 49% wound chance. Equiped with a silver scope and black Stock. Its my fav personal weapon, light enough to carry it around with enough fire power to pierce through anything

- M4 Semi-Automatic Carbine ( elite carbine ) 389-572 damage, 2.1 speed, 50% wound chance. A special ops weapons, Being Semi-Automatic allows for better accuracy, therefore hitting players in the most critical places. ( totaly ignores the migtation )

_ EE3 carbine, 207 mind poison, -1 uses,

I have tons of other carbines above avrage, currently im planning on making enhanced E11 carbine with some 120 max dsmage tissues.

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You realise that that laser will kick twice as much ass against mitigation as the Elite will, right? The Elite is only 10min damage higher.

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my buddy Zhuge wouldnt do pvp unprepared, trust me, next time read stuff completly

trust me zhuge is one of the best pvp'ers i know, he uses his laser carbine for the all melee templates, with spray shot hitting those guys with that carbbin, it will hurt. even with armor, if i get 130 damage through on 85% armor (was hanging out on TC2 with flavious) and that 130 damage was actual damage done, if that was going through 85% armor, think, of the average 60% armor in live, vs a 701 damamage carbine, and spray shot with a 7.5? 6.5 damage modifier? not sure, but yeah, and dont even say it, a PSG would be melted down by the thing in seconds.

edit: got a little enter happy, his elite would do better even though it has 10 more min, because of the closer min-max damage range,

Message Edited by mrmark200000 on 09-21-2004 06:02 AM

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While I don't doubt Zhuge is a great PvP'er, he doesn't understand how AP and Mitigation work if he is using the 389/572 Elite over the 376/701 Laser because of Ranged Mitigation 3. Of course I really question how in the world a Laser has 376 min damage...but if that is correct then after AP and Mitigation 3 the Laser has 552 DPS and the Elite has 426 DPS.

I am an engineer and I love math

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well, on naritus there was a spawn a long time (near release i beleave) ago with resouces of all kinds that had 1000 in every stat, a friend of him saved them for a long time and they used those resources, with the best krayt tissues stock, scope with the 1000 stat resouces to get that. its pretty nifty,

back to sleep i go

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wow, amazing what a slushi can do to get rid of a cold?!?! i went out to get a drink, so got a slushi, two rapsberry ones, and 30 minutes later. the cold was like lessend by 80% hmmmmm whats up with that? anywho, its late here and i'm a lil focused on xenosaga (ps2 game) atm. lol just doing one part and ill probably take another nap to get rid of this cold for good

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mrmark200000 wrote:

wow, amazing what a slushi can do to get rid of a cold?!?! i went out to get a drink, so got a slushi, two rapsberry ones, and 30 minutes later. the cold was like lessend by 80% hmmmmm whats up with that?

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It's a state of mind..

.. just like Carbineer! w00t!

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DruwDergo wrote:

you guys think master swordsman/carbineer would be a good combo?

ill have very nice counterattack when im done and i like the power of swords and the styles of carbineer

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It'sa good PvE combination.

For PvP, you lack defenses and will go down quick.

Don't quote me on this, but I think the Swordsman Counterattack and Carbineer Counterattack alsodon't stack for some odd bugged reason. Still, you're pretty close to the cap with either profession.. so the profession itself should be your main concern.

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DruwDergo wrote:

you guys think master swordsman/carbineer would be a good combo?

ill have very nice counterattack when im done and i like the power of swords and the styles of carbineer

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