Carbineer Archive
Thread: Question. What Ranged Prof has the WORST Defense? A: Carbines.
Warmaker01
Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:33 am
#14
ShentieGOAT wrote:
Also keep in mind that Carbineer/Rifleman has a potentially higher damage output, but Carbineer/Pistoleer is more versitile with fan shot, stopping shot, warning shot, and disarming shot (although they kinda fixed it =P)
I've done both. Carbineer / Rifleman definitely has punch with the Head Shot / Leg Shot combination, as well as Sniper Shot. Carbineer also gives some amount of target control which Rifleman lacks.
I've also done Carbineer / Pistoleer and as you say, the options are definitely there.
I went w/ M.Marksman / M.Carbineer / M.Rifleman / Pistoleer 0434. Best of both worlds, a ton of fun, and I impress with the speed and damage my trooper puts outs. One things for sure, the group healer only needs to target me when we go PVE, lol!
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed."
jafo1
Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:26 pm
#15
TAfirehawk wrote:
weaponmaster88 wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
Trebonious wrote:
Wasn't this issue brought up last week?
And I am sure it will be brought up every week.....how many dead horses were rez'd pre-CU.....dozens....but right now Carbineer is so good we only get two, Area KD and Defenses.....
neither of which is being paid attention to it seems.... i'm still waiting for the crowd control part of the crowd control.... and don't tell me a 2 second snare is a control... its a good way to gain a few meters on a bunch of melee people while all the ranged people just laugh at you
And why I was and still am very unhappy with the changes the Devs made to Carbineer.....but they didn't listen to my yelling or begging....
Tell them you like Jedi and wish to be a Jedi and Have there jedi Baby. Then they would listen.
Warmaker01
Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:25 pm
#16
jafo1 wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
weaponmaster88 wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
Trebonious wrote:
Wasn't this issue brought up last week?
And I am sure it will be brought up every week.....how many dead horses were rez'd pre-CU.....dozens....but right now Carbineer is so good we only get two, Area KD and Defenses.....
neither of which is being paid attention to it seems.... i'm still waiting for the crowd control part of the crowd control.... and don't tell me a 2 second snare is a control... its a good way to gain a few meters on a bunch of melee people while all the ranged people just laugh at you
And why I was and still am very unhappy with the changes the Devs made to Carbineer.....but they didn't listen to my yelling or begging....
Tell them you like Jedi and wish to be a Jedi and Have there jedi Baby. Then they would listen.
Either that, or give birth to a Lightsaber.
TAfirehawk
Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:52 pm
#17
jafo1 wrote:
Tell them you like Jedi and wish to be a Jedi and Have there jedi Baby. Then they would listen.
Actually I have been banned only once, for 24 hours, and that was because of my post in the Corr Forum stating how they only cared about Jedi.....well I didn't say it like that 
BHPansy
Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:12 pm
#18
Call me any name you like, but don't we have a KD and a snare to STOP people getting into melee range with us?
Bennyboy4308
Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:16 pm
#19
BHPansy wrote:
Call me any name you like, but don't we have a KD and a snare to STOP people getting into melee range with us?
Any name? Well your Jerk-face-bomb-squad poopy head.
BHPansy
Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:19 pm
#20
Bennyboy4308 wrote:
BHPansy wrote:
Call me any name you like, but don't we have a KD and a snare to STOP people getting into melee range with us?
Any name? Well your Jerk-face-bomb-squad poopy head.
Why thankyou sir. But my point remains valid.... as a ranged profession, it is surely a bad idea to be close enough to our enemies to stain or armour with their blood.
Bennyboy4308
Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:28 pm
#21
BHPansy wrote:
Bennyboy4308 wrote:
BHPansy wrote:
Call me any name you like, but don't we have a KD and a snare to STOP people getting into melee range with us?
Any name? Well your Jerk-face-bomb-squad poopy head.
Why thankyou sir. But my point remains valid.... as a ranged profession, it is surely a bad idea to be close enough to our enemies to stain or armour with their blood.
Yea, I was just trying to be funny (I really need to stop trying). To tell you the truth, with armor break sliced armor and a decent amount of healing, you don't even need to kite melee, or even jedi except those with the oldest sabers.
TAfirehawk
Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:44 am
#22
BHPansy wrote:
Call me any name you like, but don't we have a KD and a snare to STOP people getting into melee range with us?
The KD is a SINGLE target Special.....Carbineer is supposed to be about controlling crowds, which is MULTIPLE targets.
Thassk
Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:51 am
#23
JesseLivermore wrote:
I'm putting this post up to draw attention to a bug the developers have not responded to but is discussed at length here;
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1219746
Basically, all of the Carbineers "Melee Defense" skills are USELESS when holding a carbine (but hey, if youre holding a baton, they work!). Since Carbineers have the least amount of "Ranged Defense" (what works when you're holding a ranged weapon), Carbineers have the worst defense of all ranged professions.
So to put it another way...
What ranged prof is the best tank? Rifleman. ROFLMAO...Tell me this is working as intended.
What ranged prof has the weakest defense? Carbineers.
This friends, needs to be fixed badly.
i agree 100% with this .. i think pistoleers should have best defense .. and next to them it should be carbineers .. and then rifleman last ...
BHPansy
Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:02 am
#24
TAfirehawk wrote:
BHPansy wrote:
Call me any name you like, but don't we have a KD and a snare to STOP people getting into melee range with us?
The KD is a SINGLE target Special.....Carbineer is supposed to be about controlling crowds, which is MULTIPLE targets.
Kind of still my point... if our specials allowed us to control a crowd effectively in that way, we wouldn't have a need for a high melee defense. So the low melee defense is a result of 'sunshine scenario' thinking, that what we have makes us capable of crowd control.
expectations of carbineers crowd control > what we get
newbExtraordinaire
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:00 am
#25
Well... at least you guys can wear battle armour. I'm a pistoleer (ya know, max range 35 meters, close to melee and stuff), and I'm stuck with recon armour (high energy resists, really crappy melee resists).
Sylow
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:46 am
#26
newbExtraordinaire wrote:
Well... at least you guys can wear battle armour. I'm a pistoleer (ya know, max range 35 meters, close to melee and stuff), and I'm stuck with recon armour (high energy resists, really crappy melee resists).
Now... many people around would be ready to kill for recon armour, as energy protection is more valuable than kinetic protection in almost any form of PvP. I personally say that there's no "best" armour around, it all depends on what you fight and how you fight.