Carbineer Archive
Thread: PSG Testing
Quandry wrote:
TAfirehawk wrote:
Trebonious wrote:
I agree that it's very important to test the effects of the "efficiency" of the PSG and its recharge rate. If I understand it correctly, the PSG loses efficiency percentage as it is hit, and when the efficiency reaches 0, the PSG is not blocking anything, regardless of whether it still has condition left or not. The big question in that case, is how much damage is required to drop a PSG to zero efficiency.
I just ran over 500 points off the condition of my PSG and the Efficiency never dropped below 90%.
I was being attacked by a MBH/MCarb with an Elite @ 323 Base DPS.....so I was being hit pretty darn hard.....
But what happened to the charge on the psg. did you notice any less absorbtion when the charge on the psg got low?
The charge didn't get low....that is the whole point of this second round of testing I posted.
Some-Guy wrote:
On the plus side, the nyms doesn't have a set damage like pretty much every otherquest weapon, it varies wildly, over almost 100DPS. Fortunately youcan repeat the quest over and over until you get a good one, until they fix that anyway, then you'll be stuck with whatever you get the first time, good or bad. Stock up now
It should be fixed to only give the reward once, but I haven't asked the Devs to fix it
Hmm... the way it is done, i would have thought that the repeatability of this task is intended...
It should be fixed to only give the reward once, but I haven't asked the Devs to fix it
I highly suggest to remove your "comment" on the Nym's.
It's no problem for me. I have a truly kicking, wonderfully sliced Nym Slugthrower already. But some of our fellow members of the "Temple Of Carbines" might want wonderful versions of this toy.
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed." I don't see any fair way for them to "fix" this quest at this point. If you make it so you can only do it once the way it is now, you could just as easily wind up with a 215DPS carbine as a 315DPS one (nearest I can tell there's no decrease in probability of getting something uber vs something crappy). If you made it so everybody got a maxed out 315DPS version, then you invalidate all the work previous people did trying to get thier good one (not that they've never done this before).If you make it so everybody gets a slightly lower than max version, then you make a pre-nerf condition where none of the new people can hope to ever get something as good as the old timers have, without paying out the ass for it (not that they've never done this before). Also considering most of the other L50 quest weapons are in the 250-275PDS range max, it would be a considerable nerf.
Should they fix it so you actually have to do the quests from the other two guys before you can just drop your items on nym? Sure. Leaving the repeatability of this quest alone is probably the only fair way to handle this situation.
Bennyboy4308 wrote:
The best solution would be to make a craftable kinetic carbine be able to give a nyms a run for its money. Maybe a bit less elemental, but able to experiment it down to 73 SAC and get some decent accuracy mods on it.
Well actually, that is exactly what Iebas (TAFirehawk) is trying to do. He is having a special Czerka made. Now I realize that the Czerka is a BH weapon, but it IS a carbine, and the only other decent kinetic carbine. I am anxiously awaiting to see how it turns out, because it would be nice to have another option that could keep up with or exceed a Nyms in some way.
Honestly thought, we really shouldnt complain. Rifleman get....err....well nothing really. The LD-1 and the Fallon Hyperrifle loots are the only decent kinetic rifles that I know of. Compared to both of those, a really nice Nyms stands up very well. Pistoleers arguably get one of the best kinetic weapons in the game with the Featherweight FWG. Its only limitations are a relatively low min damage and its 35m range. But considering they can be made with amazing SAC, speed, accuracy max damage, AND have mods built into the gun, its a damn nice kinetic weapon.
Really, I dont think we are that bad off. Granted I would love to see more variety, but I am not all that concerned about it. I will mention this though, the Pistoleer forums have pretty much concluded that the only pistol that you really have to have is the Featherweight FWG. They feel the same way about that as we do about only having the Nyms. Someone in the Pistoleer forums suggested the idea of changing weapons crafting into something similar to the current armor crafting setup. What they mean is, make a rifle/carbine/pistol CORE, and then drop it into any skin that you want. So basically you could make a core for either an energy or a kinetic weapon, and then have it made to look like ANY of the carbine skins. Its not a bad idea, and it opens up a lot of style options. Not to mentions customization options. I KNOW it is not as simple as that, and that there are about 4 dozen problems with that idea that would need to be worked out first. My point is that we are not the only ones that would like to have a little variety, and that there are conversations going on out in the forums about how to address this.
Warmaker01 wrote:
TAfirehawk,
I highly suggest to remove your "comment" on the Nym's.
It's no problem for me. I have a truly kicking, wonderfully sliced Nym Slugthrower already. But some of our fellow members of the "Temple Of Carbines" might want wonderful versions of this toy.
You my friend are WRONG. There is absolutely NO WAY I will remove my comment. Why in the heck should I be censored but the rest of you not.....
This is quite insulting, but I will refrain from responding as any normal person would.....as it would get me a 3 day vacation....
BTW, the facts are clear, the item is to be random quest reward and not to be repeated endlessly until an 'uber item' is achieved (if we want to get picky, this is an EXPLOIT). Please name other quests that get to be repeated to get a 'better weapon'..... The Nym's Slugthrower Quest is BUGGED, simple fact that I obviously shouldn't have let it continue with the prevailing attitude of the Carbineer Community as it appears to be from this thread. No longer shall I let things slide because I think it isn't hurting much or we 'need' something, I will be a better Corr, sorry for my 'slacking'.
Bennyboy4308 wrote:
The best solution would be to make a craftable kinetic carbine be able to give a nyms a run for its money. Maybe a bit less elemental, but able to experiment it down to 73 SAC and get some decent accuracy mods on it.
Give me a shout and I will show you my Czerka.....
The Nym's Slugthrower Quest is BUGGED, simple fact that I obviously shouldn't have let it continue with the prevailing attitude of the Carbineer Community as it appears to be from this thread. No longer shall I let things slide because I think it isn't hurting much or we 'need' something, I will be a better Corr, sorry for my 'slacking'.
I should tell youa repeatable quest? Nekrosis on Kashyyyk. Is it a bug that you can pick it up again to get another shot on the loot, too? And there are a few more repeatable quests there...
Also, exactly from the way how it works, i assume that it's not a bug. For resolving the quest to get the badge, you don't need to drag the stuff on him, he receives the items in the run of the conversation. But alas, the Devs coded a way to bring him more items so you can get more carbines. If this is a bug and exploit, i am sorry, but based on how this works, i rather assume that it's intended behaviour.
Sylow wrote:
The Nym's Slugthrower Quest is BUGGED, simple fact that I obviously shouldn't have let it continue with the prevailing attitude of the Carbineer Community as it appears to be from this thread. No longer shall I let things slide because I think it isn't hurting much or we 'need' something, I will be a better Corr, sorry for my 'slacking'.
I should tell youa repeatable quest? Nekrosis on Kashyyyk. Is it a bug that you can pick it up again to get another shot on the loot, too? And there are a few more repeatable quests there...
Also, exactly from the way how it works, i assume that it's not a bug. For resolving the quest to get the badge, you don't need to drag the stuff on him, he receives the items in the run of the conversation. But alas, the Devs coded a way to bring him more items so you can get more carbines. If this is a bug and exploit, i am sorry, but based on how this works, i rather assume that it's intended behaviour.
I am not familar with the changing loot with Necrosis.....is that the Hallsweeper Carbine?
And your point about dragging the items to him is the PERFECT explanation of the exploit.....you can't actually repeat the quest and thus dragging the items is the bug.
I am not familar with the changing loot with Necrosis.....is that the Hallsweeper Carbine?
Regular loot are a cybernetic arm and the Bell-22 deed. There's always one more random weapon along, be it proton rifle, dawnsorrow rifle or some other rare and exquisite weapon. (Don't think that the Hallsweepere is among them, though)
And once in a while you also can loot Banes Heart, a very good lightsaber crystal. Though, after killing the guy for something like 10 times, we only got that one once.