Carbineer Archive

Thread: Wow, look at the variety.....

CplVausha
Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:39 pm
#14

That's one wasted ADK/Proton Carbine. Had to delete mine to get my ADK back to use on my 73 SAC / 980 max dam E11 MarkII.



[Sunrunner]
Eksor Nivag - Bounty Hunter
Pre NGE - Master Bounty Hunter - Master Carbineer - 0-0-0-4 Pistoleer - Novice Medic


[Scylla]
Leha Vausha - Jedi
Pre NGE - Master Pikewoman - Teräs Käsi Master - Master Brawler


Edis
Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:03 pm
#15

Well, the reason I complain about what we get compaired to what everyone else is getting is because we have to be kept up to par with everyone else. If we weren't everyone would go to such and such profession because they get all the cool stuff. You have to look at all aspects of the game, all classes of the game... and then compare. Not to say some weapons will make one class better or worse, or abilities... ect. But you have to stay up to par with everyone else or all the carbineers *for example only, not stating facts* will all jump ship for the class that's getting the cool weapons! Everyone deserves an equal amount of neat little things that makes the class enjoyable. I love carbineer, don't get me wrong... don't think I would rather be anything else. But I am only stating that I wish we could get as much content with weapons as everyone else is getting. Those of you who think comparing one profession to another profession... who gets what, is wrong... tough, that's your opinion and we all know the saying. I'm not gonna bother saying it here, but you all know it. We deserve some new weapons in my *opinion* and that's all there is to it. Flame me if you want... you're only showing your ignorance. For those of you who didn't flame me, thanks for posting your thoughts... kinda nice to see what everyone elses standpoint is on the issue.


Edis


Kauri



RobbPilot
Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:18 pm
#16

We may not have gotten a lot of new weapons, but as far as keeping up with everyone else... I always get the distinct feeling that I'm outdamaging the other members in my groups, even when I'm not trying to. So... I end up feeling like they got the bling-blings but we got the juice... and that aint so bad.
Edis
Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:22 pm
#17

Yeah, that's true man. I was just hopin for some more bling-blings's
Edis
Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:59 am
#18

Thank you two for the flames, appreciate the thought you put in to your posts... way more than mine. Yes, I am indeed going by what weapons are on my server. Proton carb is MBH *only*. I just wanted to see master carbineer get some new weapons... how is that stupid? It seems that most everyone else got a variety of new things. Yes, I am master carbineer and master combat medic. Yes, I did choose my template. Just because I didn't pick another ranged template to go with my already existing ranged template doesn't mean that master carbineer should have recieved any less than everyone else. I'm speaking on my opinion of *carbineer* after all this is the *carbineer* board, where we talk about *carbineers*. Not other templates. On my server it's very hard to find elite carbines without ungodly high SAC, therefore leaving me with the E11MarkII... it's not a bad gun, but it's rather plain. Something neat would have really been appreciated, maybe even just a neat firing graphic... personally I like the proton carb's blasts... they look neat imo. I just got through questing one of the new carbs through Boba Fett at Jabba's palace.. looks pretty cool, but the stats lack... some better stats on that gun would be much appreciated, on top of that it has 35 range, I think that may be a mistake. Just my two cents.


Edis

Kauri
MeilanEisley
Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:37 am
#19

When you take a support role with carbineer what kind of weapons are you expecting to get? Not our fault you chose to go medic over another ranged prof to get more cert, you even had 3 weeks to change. "oh butI want to keep my medic skills" well dont expect a huge variety of weapons then.


PS - i have a pikeman as well and each one of the new pikes suck, so know your stats before comparing. A good WS can make an better carbines then the proton.




Melan Kanos - Wanderhome Mandalorian Mercenary (Triple Ranged Mastery)
Guevera - Ahazi Master Smuggler Master Commando
Dee'aygo - Bloodfin Force Sensitive Foot Soldier
DayWalkerRori
Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:55 am
#20

Im not sure but, seems i read somewhere that Proton Weps wreak havic on Jedi...Might be why the Proton Carb is at MBH..Dunno tho, just what I read..


Anywho..I mainly use 2 weps - Protron Carb(ADK) & DC15 Rifle


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MeilanEisley
Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:44 am
#21

The proton's main advantage is the low SAC cost so you can spam high dmg specials allllll day, however it is possible for a good WS to craft a more powerful carbine, though the SAC will no doubt be higher.


Also the proton decays fast, so i ADKd mine, puped and sliced it. Problem solved, run jedi run.





Melan Kanos - Wanderhome Mandalorian Mercenary (Triple Ranged Mastery)
Guevera - Ahazi Master Smuggler Master Commando
Dee'aygo - Bloodfin Force Sensitive Foot Soldier
RobbPilot
Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:45 pm
#22






MeilanEisley wrote:

The proton's main advantage is the low SAC cost so you can spam high dmg specials allllll day, however it is possible for a good WS to craft a more powerful carbine, though the SAC will no doubt be higher.


Also the proton decays fast, so i ADKd mine, puped and sliced it. Problem solved, run jedi run.








I just did some testing earlier as a result of this debate and it was interesting... I tested the difference between my proton and a new elite carbine. The DPS numbers on the proton were listed as over 100 points higher than the elite, but the proton never outdamaged the elite during my testing... the elite was doing about 80 points more damage per shot. The SAC of the proton was 85 and the elite's was 75! Now, there was a minor speed advantage to the proton carbine, but I'm not sure that makes a big difference when you are mostly using high power specials with cooldowns. I don't know why but the end result damage of the proton seems lower than its damage and DPS numbers would indicate... and the elite I have seems to outperform it in the field.


Even if you are going for a low action cost weapon to spam with in firefights... my elite still wins that contest against the proton.


The only wildcard is elemental damage, but I have no clue what stats mobs and NPC's have, and I've never been able to tell if any of the elemenal types have shown any effect yet... I don't even know if it is working or if there are resists/vulnerabilities out there to exploit at this point.


Sirisandir
Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:35 pm
#23

Don't forget the Kalranoos Carbine.



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ThePhantomPoster
Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:18 pm
#24






CplVausha wrote:

That's one wasted ADK/Proton Carbine. Had to delete mine to get my ADK back to use on my 73 SAC / 980 max dam E11 MarkII.






Well its not like the proton carbine is expensive or hard to get, and I never EVER see good carbines on vendors.


weaponmaster88
Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:27 pm
#25

i wouldn't mind a few new master level carbines, but if they are quest rewards they better have horrible stats. if they ever make a quest gun thats better then my E11 mark2 i'll end my account faster then SOE can blink. quest guns are supposed to have much worse stats then made gun and if they ever change that they will ruin the game. so i'm all for new crafted master guns.



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Edis
Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:15 am
#26

You have a point to a certain extent Melian. Yes, I did choose to be a medic and a ranged prof so I can't expect alot of variety. But I'm not asking for variety from other classes, I'm asking for variety in the carbineer profession. That's all I've been talking about this whole time, and you keep twisting it in to me whining about not getting something like rifles or pistols, I don't want that. I want some carbineer carbines.... that's what I've been saying this whole time, please, try to keep up. I don't expect to be able to use 20 weapons. But I feel that carbineer got short changed when it came to variety in weapons. So far master carbineer has one carbine! Just one! I would just be happy if we got one more, two carbines would be good enough for me. I love my carbineer/CM and I'd rather quit than change my temp because it owns but anyway... just asking for some carbineer carbines, I don't care about pistols or rifles if that's what you're referring to, because you say that I can't expect a lot of variety with a support profession and a ranged profession... so to me that says variety = pistols and rifles. Carbineer needs more!
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