Carbineer Archive
Thread: Jedi got you nerfed.
element123 wrote:If you guys are referring to charge shot.....that didnt get nerfed. It got fixed.....it was broken. Everyone new this would happen it was just a matter of time.
It didnt' get fixed, it's still broken.
novamarine wrote:
So, blame the bounty hunters not the jedi.
No, blame the nerf whiners from many, many months ago. It wasn't enough for them that underhand and FKD went onto the same timer as every other KD in the game. No, they kept complaining about bounty hunters, and underhand and FKD were stealth nerfed. They don't KD in PvP against anyone with any kind of defense vs. KD, and they rarely work in high-level PvE.
Most of us who have charge shot didn't care about being able to spam it. We liked havinga KD that actually worked. If underhand and FKD were as effective as every other KD in the game (and they're not - my alt has been a ton of different combat classes so I know first hand) then we wouldn't be dumping a third of our remaining skill points into two boxes to get an attack we already had.
chaoskiller wrote:
BMGundam wrote:
element123 wrote:If you guys are referring to charge shot.....that didnt get nerfed. It got fixed.....it was broken. Everyone new this would happen it was just a matter of time.
It didnt' get fixed, it's still broken.How is it broken?
The duration of how long a target is knockeddown doesn't match the other knockdown attacks from other professions.
DirthNader wrote:
novamarine wrote:
So, blame the bounty hunters not the jedi.
No, blame the nerf whiners from many, many months ago. It wasn't enough for them that underhand and FKD went onto the same timer as every other KD in the game. No, they kept complaining about bounty hunters, and underhand and FKD were stealth nerfed. They don't KD in PvP against anyone with any kind of defense vs. KD, and they rarely work in high-level PvE.
Most of us who have charge shot didn't care about being able to spam it. We liked havinga KD that actually worked. If underhand and FKD were as effective as every other KD in the game (and they're not - my alt has been a ton of different combat classes so I know first hand) then we wouldn't be dumping a third of our remaining skill points into two boxes to get an attack we already had.
I agree with Nova on this. The Bounty Hunters pretty much brought down all the heat on ChargeShot, not the Jedi.
Besides, Jedi should have some reasonabledefenses against KD attacks anyway. In the movies, you never saw Princess Leia running her little ChargeShot circles around a KD'ed Darth Vader screaming "PWNED" every 30 seconds, now did you?
Deathtrooper6 wrote:
I agree with Nova on this. The Bounty Hunters pretty much brought down all the heat on ChargeShot, not the Jedi.
Besides, Jedi should have some reasonabledefenses against KD attacks anyway. In the movies, you never saw Princess Leia running her little ChargeShot circles around a KD'ed Darth Vader screaming "PWNED" every 30 seconds, now did you?
I did. Its in the Special Edition Series released for Betamax back in '84. It was common until the VHS nerf the following year.
Chargeshot was abused, it got fixed. Anything that allows you to dominate somebody, anybody so much by preventing them from being able to fight back should not be in the game.
And for the record its Canada's fault. Blame them for everything. 
novamarine wrote:
They did? Really...news to me.
In one of the blanket Jedi nerf posts not to long ago they demanded chargeshot1 get nerfed because they couldn't fight back if they were KD the entire fight, and as we all know Jedi get preferential treatment so their cries were answered. In all reality the lack of a timer on CS1 was overlooked until both Jedi and just about everyone who PvP's asked for the timer because of the dabblers who were spamming CS1. Yes it's crappy, but it really was needed.
LOL we used your special and got u guys nerfed! Woohoo... we're working our way thru all the combat professions to get their best specials nerfed... we're going riflemen next! We'll leave u guys alone now. rofl 
Ron_in wrote:
ya know, honestly, anyone who is NOT a carbineer anymore orNEVER has been a carbineerhas absolutely no reason to be voicing opinions on this publish with its effects on CS1, this is a whole new class now and you no longer have any right to speak of something that you know nothing about, this is something for those who are going to stay as carbineers so we can get these problems resolved it is not a place for you to say " you should have been nerfed you needed it" or a place for "LOL first we used it then we got you nerfed" statements such as those serve no purpose and at this point novamarine is the only one who can actually say anything for certain as pertains to information that the community needs to know, so for all of you who are NOt and never have been carbineers please, kindfuly and respectfully, leave our forums
Umm, not sure if I understand you fully. I am a master BH, I did not spam chargeshot, I am a carboneer, matter of fact over 1/2 of the skill points needed to master carboneer, I have used, I am over 1/2 way to master actually. I have 8 boxes; novice and 7 skill boxes, thats more skill points that what would be needed to now master, so, now I'm a carboneer and have a right to an opinion I hope, thank you very much.
With that said, /chargeshot was indeed broken and then sort of fixed. It should not have been reduced to the level it is now however, for other than that shot carboneer really had nothing that set it apart. Yes, it still sticks better than any of the BH KD's, so for that reason it still has value. But really, carboneer needs something that sets it a part, charge shot should have atleast paused the oponent if it did not KD every time. That would have been unique and usefull.
BH nor Jedi got it fixed, the devs did. Those classes did not get it noticed, some cruddy players did that very likely only had that shot in there hotkeys. So, some carboneer's and some BH's along with other Carboneer dablers got it noticed and fixed. You know what though, I'll still win most of my fights for I tried very hard to use skills other than chargeshot in order to win before, so I am ready now as well.