Carbineer Archive
Thread: Your Preference: Elite or Laser?
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xTeradocX
Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:38 am
#14
I like to mix it up, use differnt carbines for differnt reasons.
I have my 140-511 4.1 Laser Carbine, mostly used for PvE, but the HAM costs are insane(bad enough to feel through weaker buffs)
Then my Krayted E11 Enhanced carbine, 130-320 2.8 (HAM costs are kinda high, but the strong bleed, the fast speed, and decent damage make it worthwhile)
A CDEF and a DH17 snubby for unbuffed PvP, crap damage, but some good speed, and HAM costs in the low teens(I love it when I get challanged to a duel, Im wearing full composite, and I turn to fight em with a CDEF LOL)
And of course Elites, of these I have several, speed sliced, damage sliced, I even have one thats ranged sliced!, (170-250 2.8) (169-340 3.6) (230-414 3.5) high hams on that last one, but in all they work pretty good
Plus a few DOT weapons, Mind poison 170 str, Health burn 130 str, action diesese 160, not very strong but used in an area attack can make a real difference in a big battle.
In PvP supression fire is your best friend, dizzy em, then posture change =) Most templates dont take into account posture change, so down they go, flopping like a fish, then just either Cripple shot or scatter shot 2 em to death.
Differnt weapons are used at differnt times, some are better short range, some long, some for speed, some for area attacks, my Laser is +40 at 50m, while my E11 is +70 at 30m, dont remeber what the elites were, but the CDEF is +20 at 5m and +50 at 20m.
(Cant be 100% certain about these stats, severs crashed and I cant get in to cheack)
Xieflow
Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:06 am
#15
And of course Elites, of these I have several, speed sliced, damage sliced, I even have one thats ranged sliced!, (170-250 2.8) (169-340 3.6) (230-414 3.5) high hams on that last one, but in all they work pretty good
There is *NO* such thing as a "range slice"
There is *NO* such thing as a "range slice"
Areriye
Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:02 am
#16
The only problem with the laser carbine is that ranged damage mitigation limits its use in PvP. You don't want a weapon with low minimum damage... even with the medium AP, you won't do crap for damage.
JorahRamsai
Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:09 am
#17
Depends on the target really. PvE, 80% of the time, I'll use a laser, if I need a different damage type I'll change weapons, but I pretty much never use my Elites in PvE.
As for PvP, mitigation means alot. My laser has a max damage of 476 and a min of 56. So, if you fight someone with ranged mitigation 3, that's 60% max damage reduced, which is less then 230 max dmg. My elite has 250-400 so mitigation has practically no effect on it.
However, if you're fighting a melee profession with your carbine, use the laser, melee mitigation does nothing to your weapon, but if he's carrying a gun, switch to the elite.
MoonhellWarriors
Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:13 am
#18
I started to Use Enhanced E11.. I have to say: WOW! use it guys, they are quick and AP1.. while the enhanced has a DOT damage 
MP-Denmark
Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:09 am
#19
Laser, the Elite sucks except the Krayt one should be better, but costs like **edit**.
satanis
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:14 am
#20
DIV>~pentjak
With respect, why are you comparing a Laser and Elite using the same powerup?
Try:
Laser 16% Mininium / 32% Max
Elite 32% Minimum / 16% Anything Else
The powerups help you round out a weapon. 32 Maximum on the high damage of the laser makes more sense, as does 32% Minimum on the elite to further reduce its range. I usually find an Elite to be slightly faster than a respectable Laser Carbine (something 70-340 rather than 40-260). The consistency of the elite blows the Laser away!
A 2.6 / 211-248 Elite carbine is fearsome. I get this with 32% Minimum & 16% Speed P/up, and fire at speed cap with +25 Carbine Speed.
pentjaksilat
Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:38 pm
#21
satanis wrote:
DIV>~pentjak
With respect, why are you comparing a Laser and Elite using the same powerup?
DIV>~?
i can't possibly compare every weapon w/ each powerup they're best w/ and each available slice...well...i could, but i'm far too lazy. 
didn't make those stats just for the elite/laser, but rather as part of a comparison for all the carbines w/ various enhanced versions & whatnot, sorry if you didn't find the setup you were looking for.
the purpose was to show some basic stats on the weapons w/ similiar setups, but i just don't have the time right now to compare every iteration of weapon, powerup, and slice. when it comes down to it...every server's going to have enough variance that you will want to compare for yourself for best effect, i was just trying to show some broad stats to compare w/ generally.
~pentjak
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