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Thread: No New Weapons for Carbineers (So says Thunderheart)

TAfirehawk
Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:33 pm
#14






OnlyMaestro wrote:

/dodges...


...but since Carbineers have no dodge it hits me.


Damnit.




I overreacted and I'm sorry...Devs have done a lot for us...just we do seem to be the unheralded step-child.







Don't worry, I only had a Krayt DH17 Short Carbine in my hands......too bad you have 90% resist to energy, AR1 to my AP0....


But it should still hit all those FOTM types since I used BurstShot2 LOL LOL



I over-reacted too and am sorry.....just been dealing with too many FOTM whiners.....





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OnlyMaestro
Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:49 pm
#15

Krayt-DE 10s are looking good on Eclipse...


They got them already somehow, don't ask. :/



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OnlyMaestro
Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:52 pm
#16

But you do have to admit, getting no weapons defeats the equal treatment we've been wanting. =P hehe



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NippyBooBoo
Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:15 pm
#17



OnlyMaestro wrote:

No new Weapons for us Carbineers, he stated plainly in answering our question.


Lastly, there are no new weapons planned at this time, but the functionality of weapons will change in the Combat Balance.


This is BS. We've waited 9 months, we got some specials corrected to be working -- and they continue to cater to Rifleman and Pistoleers.

Yup...patience has worn thin...lots of other fun professions out there who get attention and recognition. We've been one of the best communities, one of the most calm, rational, and carefree...we don't make demanding posts on other forums, we don't assault other forums -- and yet we get ignored.

TH once said it takes "Months of planning and development to even add a new weapon," if nothing is even planned now and nothing is planned before Combat Balance, we may never get a new weapon.

Message Edited by OnlyMaestro on 04-29-2004 06:42 PM





Griffin. Reread it he did say that what are current weapons do will change. Perhaps more AP or diffrent damage type? TH made it very clear that we will directly be affected ( hopefully for the better) by the new combat balance. We will see.



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OnlyMaestro
Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:29 pm
#18

But they keep telling Rifleman they can't change AP or Damage Types on the Spraystick or Tusken Rifle. =/



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OnlyMaestro
Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:01 pm
#19

Basically my beef is when he said "No weapons in planning," yet they add Pistols and Rifles like its a Monthly "supposed to happen," event.



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buster
Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:11 pm
#20



They won't *admit* that. If you're talking about the Spraystick and Tusken Rifle -- they now keep saying it "can't" be done.





*mutters something about t-21's used to have blast damage*




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SpungeBob
Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:25 pm
#21

I feel hurt man. I know im not the only one, but what can we do about it?I mean, TH's answer was just downright cold... i almost cried...



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buster
Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:13 am
#22




Can we get this raised as a correspondant issue ?


We are now the only ranged class that does not have a stun weapon, which puts us at a severe disadvantage in PvP. Rifleman has had 2 or 3 new weapons, so has pistoleer, most of which are very good weapons and player craftable so they can be loot made. We get the fairly poor Nym's carbine which is barely distinguishable from the DXR6 we already have, and non craftable so is a stock weapon.


Ok, so we have had most of our specials fixed, which is more than some classes can say, but it still feels like that in terms of weapons we are getting the shaft






please stop your whinning for a new gun. we don't NEED a new gun. it'd be a nice thing to have but it's not a MUST. i would likethe EE3's radius fixed, i would likelooted DH17's fixed. quit crying about the weapons and go out there and kick some ace. Stun is not the answer.




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Bermag
Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:14 am
#23

Being both a Carbineer and Weaponsmith I am kind of disappointed that we don't get any new weapons. Always fun to have somethign new to play with. Would love to have a new damage type weapon.


But we should not start crying until we know what else is planned for the combat revamp. First of all the way AP/AR is done might get changed (read that it was not intended to work they way it is now instead the bonus damage should be done to armor not player). Second, riflemen have a big advantage because they fire any weapon at 1 second speed cap. Change that so weapon speed matters like it does for us Carbineers and we have a new situation.


We are not the only profession with no stun weapon. Swordsman,TK,Commando,BH does not have any either. And more people are using stun layers in armor cutting the damage of stun batons and pistols to half the weapon damage (before resists). Jawa rifle is over-powered since it is Ar1 though.


IMO, Carbineers is working much like we are intended to (well we need some tweaking and some fixes). It is the other professions not working correct. No way that Riflemen should be able to fire any weapon at 1 speed cap IMO.


If we take a look at our weapons, most are working well. Pistoleer has several redundant weapons (dh17, dl44, dl44 metal, Scout all AP0 energy). Riflemen did not have an acid or heat damage weapon before so the new guns were needed.


I think all our weapons are useful. Each have their pros and cons. There is a use for every carbine.


Elite carbine should possible be tweaked adding some more damage. But still a good PvP weapon because of damage mitigation rules





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TAfirehawk
Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:24 am
#24

AMEN Bermag.....


The people crying here are the FOTM people that are now mad they took up Carbineer to be Uber in PvP....even though we told them Publish 7 wouldn't make us uber....oh well. Another week or two and the Carbineer Forum will be back to normal I hope






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DoctorCoryn
Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:10 am
#25






AriasImmortal wrote:
they've changed the damage types on weapons before.






How many times did they change the T-21 before its current form?? I remember over the space of a week it went from AP3 to AP1 and back to AP3...


They could do the same with our weapons (Elite to AP2 perhaps??) so I'm with you Arias




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Nekra
Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:53 am
#26




feel hurt man. I know im not the only one, but what can we do about it?I mean, TH's answer was just downright cold... i almost cried...




I am crying.......... I have been using the same old vendor bought weak crap for months. WAAAAA

WAAAA WAA waa...


I am to poor to be able to get a nice gun so a new vendor bought weak crap gun was my only hope...


WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAA waa wa...


What will I do now?
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