Carbineer Archive

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Subedeimatt wrote:

@TAfirehawk

Don't take this the wrong way as I've no intention of picking holes in your post, quite the contrary: I think there's somehing going wrong with my DPS calculations and I'm *edit*ed if I can see where the problem is and hope you can help. You posted you do 2,500 DPS with cripplingshotusing the DH17. Speed mod of +84. I make that DPS of 1,972 using a damage modifier of 7.5 (taken from the excellent stickey on the subject). Any ideas where my calculation's going wrong here? For reference, I'm calculating DPS as (((Min damage+Max damage)/2)*7.5)/Actual Firing Speed. In this case I make your AFS as 1.04.

Any help you could give would be great as I'veexpanded my spreadsheet to include DPS taking into account of Ranged Mitigation and hope to add armour rating etc to fathom exactly how much damage is being done in PvP (likely not much but would be nice to put an actual figure on it). Anyway, if I've got the basic calcs wrong the rest is much use!!

Any help you could give would be great, and sorry all this going off-subject.

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My speed mod is a weak +69

Enhanced E11 krayted/FFS (damage slice)

125-300 spd 1.9

Enhaced E11 kratyed/FFS (speed slice)

100-245 spd 1.3

Laser Carbine (Krayted w/ visable stock, scope, and barrel)

*this thing looks like a bis ass rifle!!!

95-459 spd 3.2

I refuse to buy elite's and DRX6's because of speed issues.

It's made with +96 tissues (I think) and stocked. I'm pretty sure I got a 27% damage slice on it. I payed 1.5M for the gun and tipped the smuggler 25K for the slice of the laser, dxr6 and the ee3 (all got damage slices over 25%).

This is addressed to Doq Utek. I'm just curious of the worth, in dollars, of that EE3 Krayt Carbine. Thats exaclty what I want.

FleshShintai

Bounty Hunter 0400

Carbineer 4404

Ranger 0040

Sorry to burst your fun guys, but here it goes.

Laser ap2

AS = 2.6

dam. 84 - 394

-50 point blank

+60 ideal

-50 max

HAM= 44-56-35 ,respectivley (in that area may be off by a few)

Elite ap1

AS = 2.5

dam. 201-435

-60 point blank

+55 ideal

-40 max

HAM ,about 45-55-35 (averaged)

plus several other laser exactly like taht one but with 3.5 - 4.1 AS

another question how do you determine DPS??

Isn't the formula (100-(+speed skill)) * Special Delay * Weapon Speed/100, with a 1 sec cap?

In that case, wouldn't +100 automatically cap anything?

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mmx1 wrote:
Isn't the formula (100-(+speed skill)) * Special Delay * Weapon Speed/100, with a 1 sec cap?

In that case, wouldn't +100 automatically cap anything?

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You're correct...hence why rifles can cap a T21 so easy...just get +10 speed tapes or +5 for master marksmen...

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Godswarrior493 wrote:

ooh yea and soory bout this to

my speed mods are +115 so i could have a 4953.3487 AS carbine and still CAP it

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and accuracy is quite nice as well, only +201 gah

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Nice try on the Speed Forumula but you fail higher math.....

At +100 and higher, you cap on the positive approaching side of infinity

Just picked up the other 5 new Krayt Carbines....unfortunately I got totally ganked on 3 of the slices and the other 2 were nothing to write home about....

DXR6 - 20% Speed Slice
2.1 Speed
141/264 Min/Max - with powerup 163/350
37.8% Wound
+72 @ 22m
47/64/40 HAM

Elite- 33% Speed Slice
1.7Speed
136/267Min/Max - with powerup 157/354
33.4% Wound
+81 @ 40m
49/65/41 HAM

Enhanced E11- 15%Damage Slice
1.5Speed
116/274Min/Max - with powerup 134/363
31.1% Wound
+71 @ 30m
48/56/36 HAM

Laser- 23% Speed Slice
1.8Speed
69/362Min/Max - with powerup 80/480
35.2% Wound
+77 @ 50m
46/63/40 HAM

EE3- 23% Speed Slice
2.2 Speed
128/271Min/Max - with powerup 148/359
28.6% Wound
+68 @ 27m
86/79/64HAM

All of these cap, some way too easy.... The CripplingShot DPS on the Laser is 2100, which is over 400 less than the DH17 Short Carbine I just got. But of course the Laser is AP2 and the DH17 is AP0, for when that matters

For comparison, my old Krayt Carbines....

DXR6
2.4 Speed
116/216 Min/Max
25.3% Wound
+25 @ 22m
34/49/25HAM

Elite
3.4Speed
163/308Min/Max
30.8% Wound
+42 @ 40m
62/79/55HAM

DXR6
4.0Speed
190/309Min/Max
35.6% Wound
+33 @ 22m
61/78/53HAM

Laser
3.3Speed
54/399Min/Max
22.1% Wound
+18 @ 50m
33/50/25HAM

EE3
1.8 Speed
88/237Min/Max
15.6% Wound
+23 @ 27m
43/35/20HAM

Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 05-10-2004 12:24 AM

I don't know if I should say congrats or condolenses That's a nice lineup but I know you were hoping for better. The same kinda thing happend to me on the first 3 or 4 Krayt wepons I got. Bittersweet isn't it. At least you hit the top shelf with your DH17 That one maybe the best of it's kind I've ever seen.