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Thread: Wepons Rating / Comparision

Doq_Utek
Wed May 05, 2004 12:24 pm
#1




So the idea here is to post your wepons stats so that we can all go "Ohhh" and "Ahhh" over our guns and have a nice little feel good party. Also to get an idea of what constitues a really good wepon. I would think that for comarison sakes all stats should be listed without power ups. Listing your speed mod is probably a good idea too just so we can figure DPS if you want.


I'll go first. I think mine are pretty good,but I'm sure many have better.


Edit: Grrr...tab key


My speed mod is +90


DH17 Krayt

AS 1.9

Dam 122-287

HAM 51/60/43


E11(enhanced) Krayt

AS 1.3

Dam 97-213

HAM 32/40/20


EE3 Krayt

AS 2.9

Dam 165-429

HAM 66/59/44


Elite

AS 3.5

Dam 135-236

HAM 27/42/21


DXR6 Krayt

AS 3.9

Dam 204-417

HAM 53/69/46


Laser Kryat

AS 3.8

Dam111-546

HAM 53/69/48


Now post yours. Maybe this is a dumb idea but I'm bored. Oh well.

Message Edited by Doq_Utek on 05-05-2004 03:33 AM



Doq Utek Master Carbineer
mmx1
Wed May 05, 2004 8:54 pm
#2

Wow, i feel so poor. Of course, i've been spending my cash on BER11 harvesters and scythes lately. That EE3 looks hot, would certainly speed up mokk runs. My carbs(post-slice, no pu-up though i always slap on a speed one - at +60 i have nothing to lose):

DH17 Krayt (lent, perhaps permanently, to a Guildie as i hardly ever use it)
2.2, 99-273

E11 Krayt (unenhanced)
2.2, 114-223

Elite (Says Krayt but its dps is piss poor)
3.3 129-259

Rest are all stock(don't have any dough for tissues yet)

Laser
3.3 83-315

EE3
1.8 88-201

Sliced Nym's (haven't yet found a non-krayt Dxr6 that can beat a sliced nym's)
3.3 103-217



A guildie has offered to sell me a krayt laser, 2.6 83-350 roughly, post slice. What's a fair price for it?



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Mobes Brack'n Weaponsmith/ Master Swordsman
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TAfirehawk
Wed May 05, 2004 9:21 pm
#3

I won't list my 7 old Krayt Carbines......so here is my first of six new ones


DH17 Short Carbine


2.6 Speed

148/399 Min/Max

43.8% Wound

+36 @ 25m Ideal

80/82/63 HAM



I have +84 Carbine Speed so I cap all Specials at a 2.5 Weapon Speed, close enough here


CripplingShot does just over 2,500 DPS WOOT WOOT





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Doq_Utek
Wed May 05, 2004 10:41 pm
#4

MMX 1, I paid 200K for a laser about like what your talking about.


TAFirehawk, /whistle...that's a sweet gun dude!





Doq Utek Master Carbineer
TAfirehawk
Thu May 06, 2004 7:41 am
#5

It should be sweet for 1.2 mil


25% better DPS than my previous DH17 Short Carbine.






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

novamarine
Thu May 06, 2004 7:54 am
#6


I just got my hands on a damage-sliced elite that is:


201-315 @ 3.7 reload. +51 accuracy at 40 M


It is just a normal stocked/scope elite carbine with an extremely good damage slice.


I am really quite in love with it. I have +83 speed so I am speed capped with it using FAS2.


TAfirehawk
Thu May 06, 2004 8:00 am
#7






novamarine wrote:


I just got my hands on a damage-sliced elite that is:


201-315 @ 3.7 reload. +51 accuracy at 40 M


It is just a normal stocked/scope elite carbine with an extremely good damage slice.


I am really quite in love with it. I have +83 speed so I am speed capped with it using FAS2.









You are NOT capped with FAS2......Actual Firing Speed is 1.07



Throw Max/Min powerup on to get to 233/415 firing FAS2 every 1.07 seconds and 5.5X damage......1665 DPS.....very nice



Oh wait, against an 80% Comp PvP target.....its only 83 DPS


Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 05-06-2004 11:02 AM



Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Ayami-Ayami
Thu May 06, 2004 8:01 am
#8

i only have +54 speed mods:



Krayt DH17 short-nose:

speed: 1.5

Damage: 79 - 225

HAM is 25/26/14


Laser carbine:

speed: 3.5

damage: 41- 271

HAM: 29/46/23


EE3:

speed: 2.8

damage: 85 - 195

HAM: 40/33/18



DXR6:

speed: 3.8

damage: 111 - 177

HAM: 30/47/22



elite:

speed: 3.4

damage: 106 - 184

HAM: 30/48/24



all of those are un-sliced and with out power ups



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The removal of CH and the NGE in general is the dumbest thing a company has ever done. period.
CH deserves to stay, and SOE deserves to be *#&$^#*@ until they are #*&$& and then *#&$ some more!
LONG LIVE THE CREATURE HANDLERS!!!

- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
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Ayami-Ayami
Thu May 06, 2004 9:38 pm
#9

well i some how doubt he will notice the .07


once i hit master i'll be firing burst shot at 1.08, and hopfuly i'll be geting some more speeds mods so i can really cap it





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Ayami - MCH since september '03 and until NGE.
The removal of CH and the NGE in general is the dumbest thing a company has ever done. period.
CH deserves to stay, and SOE deserves to be *#&$^#*@ until they are #*&$& and then *#&$ some more!
LONG LIVE THE CREATURE HANDLERS!!!

- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
TAfirehawk
Fri May 07, 2004 6:56 am
#10






Ayami-Ayami wrote:

well i some how doubt he will notice the .07


once i hit master i'll be firing burst shot at 1.08, and hopfuly i'll be geting some more speeds mods so i can really cap it









Of course nobody will notice a 0.07 firing rate change.....but SOMEBODY has to pick on Nova from time to time





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

WufgarRuffian
Fri May 07, 2004 8:05 am
#11

as of right now I have a spd mod of +80


The only carbine I have that is really above and beyond for my server is my elite I found


Visible stock(love it)


dam 197-289


spd 2.9


regular ham costs for a elite


for Flurry this is one sweet elite (made by shabitz)


pulled a 34% dam slice on this one, and had another same stats (no visible stock) got a 35% dam slice back to back


almost made up for the 500 19% spd slices I have gotten in this game


found two imperial stocks on a vendor for 15k so going to start collecting some newer drops, tissues, ect,see what I may be able to come up with. Really need a nice dx my nyms is fun but nothing to write home about





Wufgar
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Subedeimatt
Fri May 07, 2004 8:10 am
#12

@TAfirehawk


Don't take this the wrong way as I've no intention of picking holes in your post, quite the contrary: I think there's somehing going wrong with my DPS calculations and I'm *edit*ed if I can see where the problem is and hope you can help. You posted you do 2,500 DPS with cripplingshotusing the DH17. Speed mod of +84. I make that DPS of 1,972 using a damage modifier of 7.5 (taken from the excellent stickey on the subject). Any ideas where my calculation's going wrong here? For reference, I'm calculating DPS as (((Min damage+Max damage)/2)*7.5)/Actual Firing Speed. In this case I make your AFS as 1.04.


Any help you could give would be great as I'veexpanded my spreadsheet to include DPS taking into account of Ranged Mitigation and hope to add armour rating etc to fathom exactly how much damage is being done in PvP (likely not much but would be nice to put an actual figure on it). Anyway, if I've got the basic calcs wrong the rest is much use!!


Any help you could give would be great, and sorry all this going off-subject.









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novamarine
Fri May 07, 2004 8:17 am
#13






TAfirehawk wrote:






novamarine wrote:


I just got my hands on a damage-sliced elite that is:


201-315 @ 3.7 reload. +51 accuracy at 40 M


It is just a normal stocked/scope elite carbine with an extremely good damage slice.


I am really quite in love with it. I have +83 speed so I am speed capped with it using FAS2.









You are NOT capped with FAS2......Actual Firing Speed is 1.07



Throw Max/Min powerup on to get to 233/415 firing FAS2 every 1.07 seconds and 5.5X damage......1665 DPS.....very nice



Oh wait, against an 80% Comp PvP target.....its only 83 DPS




Gah! Because you caught me in my 0.07 lie!


Gah! Because stupid armor makes my damage only 83 DPS. [Armor needs to change or they need to remove the 75% PvP penalty.]



Actually, I think I am going to stick with min damage/speed powerups. That will convert my elite to 267-315 with 3.1 reload. I'll be able to fire scattershot2 at 1.3 seconds.


If I switch to the build Master Carbineer/Master Marksman/Master TKA/ Medic 1000 (which I am really really thinking about) I'll pick up a bit more speed and be able to use min/max damage powerups and be firing scattershot2 at 1.1 reload. The only thing stopping me is that I really like Carbineer/Doctor and that I have nice stockpiles of great resources.


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