Carbineer Archive

Thread: Funny from the pistoleer forums.

Haywood
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:39 pm
#14

Easy,


As a former Master Pistoleer there are only 3-4 working specials.


Fan shot - awesome - x5 aoe cone can hit 1 sec speed cap at master


Health shot 2 - bleed


Stopping shot - x6 damage single target attack slow shooting (consider broken - it does not stop anything)


PistolMelee Defence 1 KD on timer.


Guys that is all that works, all the other specials are broken or not working as intended.


Disarm 1/2 broken they do nothing
Bodyshot 3 - lower DPS than bodyshot 2 from marksman tree
PistolMeleedefence 2 - no KD high ham - broken
Dive shot -
doubletap - ok but a low DPS


Multitarget pistol shot - broken supposed to be an AOE attack
And the other attacks do not work or are worthless. They do need to have some effect added to a shot.


I am also working on master Carbine, so easy on the flame.






00101000100110011101001011011111110100100010011111
00111010000011000011000110101111010011010110111000
00101000000010010110000111011000001101110000110101 COL Haywood'
11010011000100010110011101001000001000001110110111 Master Bounty Hunter
11100111100011011001010110100101010110110011101000 01101000110100101101110000011110011010100100110001 Imperial Ace Pilot
10100010100001110000101111101110010010100000000111



AriasImmortal
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:56 pm
#15

ok, working specials that are useful.


cripplingshot-way slower than any pistoleer shot. you guys have more speed mods +already faster guns, but it does have a 7.5 damage mod


scattershot2-7.0 mod, hits all 3 pools, pretty nice special for taking out buffed people


chargeshot1-**edit** this kicks ass!


burstshot1-fast, high damage, for little HAM.


all other specials are broken/completely redundant.





ARIAS TE'THAI
Master Swordsman|Elevator Wh0re
ECHUU|ECHUU-SHEN
Jedi Knight |Mandalorian Enforcer
Day One player/Pre-9 Jedi/PvP God. All gone. Canceled.

seiv
Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:00 pm
#16

Gee, is there anything that pistoleers don't want?

Yea you forgot the Scatter!! They want that too!


Seiv
weaponmaster88
Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:12 pm
#17

as a retiring pistoleer i can tell you they are not strong at all.... at carbine 4 i am doing the smae amount of dmg as master pistoleer but at a slower rate (about 2.5 seconds instead of 1.5) and most of our specials don't work they include: disarming shot1(dosen't disarm anything uses HAM and does smae amount of dmg as a regualr shot except against lairs); PMD2 higher ham then 1 no KD and about the same dmg but with a 7m range; Disarming shot2 yes they did take the AOE KD away and 4got to give ti to carbine, but they left the AOE so now it does same dmg as stopping shot too 1 target and makes all the others aggro u and randomly chooses to hit them at times. MTPS completly broken, a bunch of Worrts almost killed me when i was using this cause of high ham andlow dmg. yes we do get a lot of great defences but everything good in pistoleer is crammed into the one line (best specials/mitigation/defences). so yah carbine is pretty bad off and dosen't get much attension but don't assume causepistoleer is asking for more stuff means they are given lots of attension, the other profession pistol moves are the ones with the attension the only thing they did to us was put a timer on our KD and remove ourAOE kd....



Xerses





Xerses- Master Jedi

Zudet- Master Pilot (almost) and BH
Come visit my shop at 4777 -2444 tatooine (deliver 4 mod jewlery here and auction winnings as well)
AriasImmortal
Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:14 pm
#18

ok, paragraphs are your friend... and so is punctuation, reading that almost made my eyes bleed.


The point is, pistoleers are less broken than we are (no, i'm not kidding or making things up) and they are asking for abilities that when they do get fixed will make them far too powerful. They already have it better than carbineer or *gasp* pikeman.


I'll bet that some pistoleer will come in here and complain that pistoleer is more broken than pikeman... then we can laugh even more!





ARIAS TE'THAI
Master Swordsman|Elevator Wh0re
ECHUU|ECHUU-SHEN
Jedi Knight |Mandalorian Enforcer
Day One player/Pre-9 Jedi/PvP God. All gone. Canceled.

PhantomSnipa
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:24 am
#19

speaking as an also retired pistoleer i would also like to comment that the +40 dizzy defense is broken as well, lol i went with the "unpowered" tkm for replacement



Onaeveim Reeco
Achleigh_Seinnhai
Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:11 pm
#20

/laugh



Yep. I had to jump the fence from Pistoleer to Carbine thanks to the all powerful "Farce" playing with me via little blue boxes. I've been a Carbineer for, like, a day, and I can already tell you that y'all got the short end of the stick. Sure, the max damage on Carbines is higher, but they're slow. Even with a 35% speed slice they're slow. And these specials? Um, like, no. I haven't jumped all the way in, but I'm willing to bet from what I've been reading in this forum, that it's going to get worse before it gets better....


I know criticism from cron monkeys isn't what y'all want to hear, but if you can find a reason why NOT to become a Pistoleer, more power to you. Pistoleer Specials (except the broken ones) are WAY better andaren't anywhere near the HAM costs, not to mention you don't look like a clod when you run. If someone can explain to me what makes y'all wanna stay Carbineers, I'm all ears.


Don't get me wrong, I see a little light at the end of this tunnel, but I'm guessing it's a train.


Ach'leigh Seinnahi


Bria





Princess of the Derik'hur Highlands
Achleigh_Seinnhai
Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:26 pm
#21

Um, I'm kinda embarrassed now. Let me get this straight. CS can be spammed and doesn't suffer from 30 sec kd rules?


<digs around in her backpack> <dusts off Krayt Carbine>


Now where'd you say those Krayts were?


<smile>


Me again...





Princess of the Derik'hur Highlands
TrassNimode
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:25 pm
#22


Achleigh wrote:

'
If someone can explain to me what makes y'all wanna stay Carbineers, I'm all ears.'

I am not speaking for all carbineers, but I'm a carbineer/bh carbs. That's why I'm keeping it ;-)

'Now where'd you say those Krayts were?'

I believe there has been a few threads on this...

If you shoot only CS, then you will imobilize the Krayt and he won't be going anywhere. But the damage is crap, it will take you hours to kill it. Buffs would wear off, not to mention it wouldn't be very fun or worth it. You wouldn't even have a chance to move or take your eyes off the screen or you'd be dead.

If you wanted to kill it quicker, you'd have to use crippling shot and bleeds. But in order to do that, you wouldn't be shooting CS to keep it pinned and it would kill you.

Not really possible to solo a Krayt, even with CS.




Vane-Bothan Master Carbineer-Radaint.
Tyler-"And why would anybody want this $hit job?"
Jack-"Because it affords him other interesting opportunities."
Tyler-"Like splicing single frames of porno into family films."
Jack-"No one knows they saw it, but they all did."
Tyler-"A nice big c0ck..."
AriasImmortal
Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:40 pm
#23

Trass, once i finish off holo profs and go master swords, i'm gonna give krayt soloing a try . I've already gotten 1/4th of an NS elders mind down solo, and thats only at 0-0-4-3 in swords lol.



ARIAS TE'THAI
Master Swordsman|Elevator Wh0re
ECHUU|ECHUU-SHEN
Jedi Knight |Mandalorian Enforcer
Day One player/Pre-9 Jedi/PvP God. All gone. Canceled.

Micih
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:34 pm
#24

/agree




Akessa

(¯`·._)
Carbineer Superstar, Retired(_.·`¯)
[V]alahi #1 Stunna Girl, Professional Raver, Novice Conn-bish!


Ciirybeccaskyr
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:02 pm
#25



Haywood wrote:

Easy,

As a former Master Pistoleer there are only 3-4 working specials.

Fan shot - awesome - x5 aoe cone can hit 1 sec speed cap at master

Health shot 2 - bleed

Stopping shot - x6 damage single target attack slow shooting (consider broken - it does not stop anything)

PistolMelee Defence 1 KD on timer.

Guys that is all that works, all the other specials are broken or not working as intended.

Disarm 1/2 broken they do nothing
Bodyshot 3 - lower DPS than bodyshot 2 from marksman tree
PistolMeleedefence 2 - no KD high ham - broken
Dive shot -
doubletap - ok but a low DPS

Multitarget pistol shot - broken supposed to be an AOE attack
And the other attacks do not work or are worthless. They do need to have some effect added to a shot.

I am also working on master Carbine, so easy on the flame.







Just to repost this cause it was exactly what i was going to post as well as another former pistoleer.



SoroSuub Industries
Located just 830m south of Coronet at -237-5557
12point -- Armors, Sliced Weapons, Foods, Buff Packs, Top quality Tailoring and Resoruces
Ezis
Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:10 pm
#26




Meanwhile, pistoleers, one of the least ignored professions with only Melee Defense 2 broken, and great defenses.






first off, i would like to state your ignorance on the pistoleer profession, i am a master gunfighter and i keep it for the defense mods, however most of my moves don't work... body shot 3 for instance, it deals about the same dmg as body shot 2 at a higher ham cost... disarm shot 2 is higher ham cost than disarm shot 1, yet deals the same dmg as a regular shot... none of the specials at master actually work... i have noticed as i'm picking up carbineer that the state of this profession is completely wrong... there are about 2 moves i've noticed that actually work, and the defense mods just don't add up correctly, however to state that melee defense 2 is the only broken move is really showing your ignorance to the state of that profession...


i will give you the fact that carbineer is the second most broken profession in the game, only to pikeman, but give me a break, don't start babbling in here about how pistoleer only has one broken special, you are really making yourself look stupid!!!



Ezis Johns
Corbantis's First Jedi Pirate
Captain of the TIE: Oppressor "OMGWTFUGotPWNED"
Captain of the VT-49 Decimator "OMGWTFIGotPWNED"
My lightsaber is bigger than yours!
(gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggxnnntnnnnnn<

Page 2 of 3