Carbineer Archive
Thread: Funny from the pistoleer forums.
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TrassNimode
Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:37 pm
#1
This is actually a few days old, so I don't have the thread. I was in a hurry and didn't save it, but one of the pistoleers made a post titled 'New Special at Master'.
He thought that Pistoleers needed a 'Stopping Shot 2' for a 7x damage modifier that should include a dizzy effect.
The funny thing is... people agreed with him.
Carbine is an ignored profession with few working specials, huge ham drains, no defense against xxx, and not a good enough choice of weapons (among other things).
Meanwhile, pistoleers, one of the least ignored professions with only Melee Defense 2 broken, and great defenses. Yet, they still want a Stopping Shot 2 for a 7x modifier and dizzy? **edit**?
It's funny how the same people come to these forums to call nerf on Charge Shot.
They can all be uber, but anyone who beats them needs to be nerfed. They don't even have a clue they are doing it. It's like a bad habit, like cracking your knuckles.
Oh well... ignorance is bliss, I guess.
He thought that Pistoleers needed a 'Stopping Shot 2' for a 7x damage modifier that should include a dizzy effect.
The funny thing is... people agreed with him.
Carbine is an ignored profession with few working specials, huge ham drains, no defense against xxx, and not a good enough choice of weapons (among other things).
Meanwhile, pistoleers, one of the least ignored professions with only Melee Defense 2 broken, and great defenses. Yet, they still want a Stopping Shot 2 for a 7x modifier and dizzy? **edit**?
It's funny how the same people come to these forums to call nerf on Charge Shot.
They can all be uber, but anyone who beats them needs to be nerfed. They don't even have a clue they are doing it. It's like a bad habit, like cracking your knuckles.
Oh well... ignorance is bliss, I guess.
Kubernetes
Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:35 pm
#4
Yeah, well Pistoleers are one of the most clueless classes (in general). As if having 200+ max damage, sub 2.0 reload weapons with no range penalties makes them weak (which is exactly what most pistoleers tell you). A Republic Blaster is a better gun than an Elite Carbine, but don't tell them that.
If you go to the In Concept board, look at what the pistoleers want (seriously): more damaging guns, faster speed, state change specials, area effect shots, ranged knockdown, dual wielding pistols,better accuracy at long range, better defenses, targeted shots, ability to target action and mind, a 'quickdraw' which lets them hit you quickly before you can fire, holsters. Gee, is there anything that pistoleers don't want?
AriasImmortal
Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:44 pm
#5
If they get all that we get a pistoleer shield, 100% pistols damage reduction 
israiley
Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:44 pm
#6
ill concede that i think it would be cool if pistoleers and one hand swordsmen got to weildduel weapons, but at the price of everything else getting a dmg boost so thatall is in balance.
HighRoller3K
Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:03 pm
#7
A 7x damage modifier and an awesome state effect like Dizzy is over the top.
In my opinion thier master ability should beshifting Disarmshot to Master, and make it cause low ormedium damage and an intimidate state effect.
biggychong
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:25 am
#8
Back in the day there was a good ammount of bh pistoleer fighting, both sides wanted some crazy stuff. But I do think pistoleers tend to make some of the looneyst arguments.
FelixLewis
Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:53 am
#9
As a retiring pistoleer (picking up carbines and dropping pistols) the master shot for pistoleer is broken doesn't work at all (multi target). The shots that do work are double tap, fan shot, and stopping shot. None of the disarm shots work. The defenses are crazy I had master pistoleer and the dodge tree in fencer and I could dodge a group of tuskens shooting me in the tusken fort (becomes a problem when you want to run and you keep dodging though). But pistoleer is pretty **edit** uber in pvp and pve. I dont think it needs anything else. The dizzy defense and all the good shots are in the same tree too so that is a little unfair (guess which tree i am dropping last hehe).
StarDryfter
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:23 am
#10
FelixLewis wrote:
As a retiring pistoleer (picking up carbines and dropping pistols) the master shot for pistoleer is broken doesn't work at all (multi target). The shots that do work are double tap, fan shot, and stopping shot. None of the disarm shots work. The defenses are crazy I had master pistoleer and the dodge tree in fencer and I could dodge a group of tuskens shooting me in the tusken fort (becomes a problem when you want to run and you keep dodging though). But pistoleer is pretty **edit** uber in pvp and pve. I dont think it needs anything else. The dizzy defense and all the good shots are in the same tree too so that is a little unfair (guess which tree i am dropping last hehe).
Why drop Pistol then if it is Uber in both PvE and PvP? Just boredom?
I just got novice carbineer last night, heading to master it with my docin...
Rayn
FelixLewis
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:46 am
#11
Its not uber against krayt dragons hehe charge shot 1 is nice to have hunting the big boys. I was trying to decide between rifleman and carbines and I saw a commando and a carbineer taking out a krayt fairly easily (although I can solo them if I get a canyon and a juvi fighting with just cammando). This charcter is now just going to have one main purpose and that is supporting my need for pearls.... And heck I got a master chef master armorsmith for pvp lol.
Kaffis
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:52 am
#12
Actually, Felix, the master shot doesn't work because it was originally mistakenly given our chargeshot2 properties -- AE ranged KD. When we finally got the devs attention about it, they removed it from the pistoleers, but forgot to give them something back. It's all ok, though, cause they forgot to make our move work, too. :rolleyes: Heck, theirs wasn't even supposed to be AE. It's just a myth/wish perpetuated by those who remember that it was at one point, but are too stupid/dense to comprehend that there's a reason it isn't anymore -- it wasn't supposed to be multitarget anyways.
AriasImmortal
Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:09 pm
#13
Leomi wrote:
I'm a Master Pistoleer, and whoever said that a Master Pistoleer could take a Krayt Dragon is crazy. Master Pistoleers are worse than Rouges alone IMO. Also way underpowered compared to Master Sharpshooters and Master Carbineers.
saw this in the fencer forums in the defense stacking post by the fencer correspondant (great post btw, it explains everything going on with defense stacking).
i just laughed, and laughed, and laughed some more.
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