Carbineer Archive

Thread: Carbineer to become a FOTM!!! It cant be so!

Feyrbrand
Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:17 am
#14






Pablao wrote:

With these recent posts floating about, explaining the new carbines and pistols to come threw in Publish 10, primarily carbines as the focus, could anyone else see carbineer as a new FOTM? Basically, in my guild, when the sythe begun to pop up as a new swordsman weapon, I would have to say 30% (which is a lot looking at those crafters in the guild and those who do not want to give up their template currently) switched over to the proffesion simply for the weaponry.


Same when the hack came out, pistoleer with the Geo pistol or DE-10 (though none have yet to gain the DE).


Honestly, I cant see carbineers getting a huge surprise in the new carbines, though if we happen to gain a great damage type (come on cold!!!) it could go the path of the others, with all the blasted grindings switching to carbineer for a 'test run' of the new guns. I know I may not be the best duelist, but by God, I am a group proffesion and I work just fine as carbineer (save the few twitches that make me angry). A new carbine would be nice, and we need a boost for a bit of competition with the other proffesions, but I enjoy having carbineer as a rare proffesion.Do you think carbineers will remain a rarity or become another fencer or rifleman proffesion type?





I don't think Carbineer itself will become a FOTM, but maybe BH Carbines / Carbineer will. That's because you hit the speed cap and have loads of accuracy.


Just give us a more powerful version of the DXR6, andwe will more than likely become a FOTM. That's because most everyone uses PSG's now, and the Acid will bypass all of that.




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Shakaeq
Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:19 pm
#15

I wouldn't think so unless the new weapon(s) are very powerful. Just about master myself and the profession is definitely quirky. really slow(+66speed atm with tapes) Although, I absolutely love using more than one button to kill. Makes it more interesting. That was one thing I enjoyed about Pike. Definitely under-powered compared to rifleman though(course rifle is way out of balance imo) /shrug. No mind attacks, no stun, and low(er) damage over time I just cant see it.



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Scythro
Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:45 pm
#16

i just recently finished BH carbines 4/master carbineer, and i have to say i love it, who said that it doesn't put out very much damage...did 800 damage with my krayt(speed sliced/cry) laser carbine in PvP, totally demolished the poor guy...

i think he was a bit suprised, anyway, point of this being, carbineer is already pretty sweet, just another damage type would rock(stun preferably). This template combined with nov brawler will own just about anything... so i hearby close this by saying that carbineer is underated and people who have never tried it need to stop ragging on it so much...it is an extremely lethal proffession when used correctly


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SeanBlader
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:31 pm
#17

What about if Mind was healable? Then we're definately FOTM.




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MehoKaric
Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:27 am
#18

That's why everyone and their sister still uses stun weapons? People are too stupid to make Carbineer an FOTM. We'd still be too difficult and only the people made to be Carbineers will be able to hack it.



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Shakaeq
Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:33 am
#19






Scythro wrote:

i just recently finished BH carbines 4/master carbineer, and i have to say i love it, who said that it doesn't put out very much damage...did 800 damage with my krayt(speed sliced/cry) laser carbine in PvP, totally demolished the poor guy...

i think he was a bit suprised, anyway, point of this being, carbineer is already pretty sweet, just another damage type would rock(stun preferably). This template combined with nov brawler will own just about anything... so i hearby close this by saying that carbineer is underated and people who have never tried it need to stop ragging on it so much...it is an extremely lethal proffession when used correctly


Erenest P'Wurl

Master carbineer/ BH carbines 4/TKA combat tree





I was strictly speaking of Carbineer, not a whole other added profession, Bounty Hunter. The person you hit for 800 was most likely a non ranged mitigated person.(if not, then good one). I hit a guy the other night for 1300 in the combat window in pvp with myT21(since you were talking numbers). I have been rifleman for 7 months and have never, even been killed by a carbineer.(had a couple in my guild too).Not saying it couldn't be done, just saying it never has happened.Like Seanblader said, IF mind was healable then it might be a different. I feel our Legshot3 damage modifier would need to be higher as well. Targeted pool damage is the best way against well prepared opponents from my experience.


I gather KD/dizzy might be part or your attack, if so.....its tough to KD someone on Thakatillo





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Feyrbrand
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:38 am
#20






Shakaeq wrote:





Scythro wrote:

i just recently finished BH carbines 4/master carbineer, and i have to say i love it, who said that it doesn't put out very much damage...did 800 damage with my krayt(speed sliced/cry) laser carbine in PvP, totally demolished the poor guy...

i think he was a bit suprised, anyway, point of this being, carbineer is already pretty sweet, just another damage type would rock(stun preferably). This template combined with nov brawler will own just about anything... so i hearby close this by saying that carbineer is underated and people who have never tried it need to stop ragging on it so much...it is an extremely lethal proffession when used correctly


Erenest P'Wurl

Master carbineer/ BH carbines 4/TKA combat tree





I was strictly speaking of Carbineer, not a whole other added profession, Bounty Hunter. The person you hit for 800 was most likely a non ranged mitigated person.(if not, then good one). I hit a guy the other night for 1300 in the combat window in pvp with myT21(since you were talking numbers). I have been rifleman for 7 months and have never, even been killed by a carbineer.(had a couple in my guild too).Not saying it couldn't be done, just saying it never has happened.Like Seanblader said, IF mind was healable then it might be a different. I feel our Legshot3 damage modifier would need to be higher as well. Targeted pool damage is the best way against well prepared opponents from my experience.


I gather KD/dizzy might be part or your attack, if so.....its tough to KD someone on Thakatillo








If I fight someone with Thakatillo, I usually just pull out my Mind Poison EE3, let it stick, then switch back to my DXR6 and use Scatter Shot 2. It takes their mind down fairly quickly and sets them up for the kill easily.



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Shakaeq
Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:56 am
#21






Feyrbrand wrote:






If I fight someone with Thakatillo, I usually just pull out my Mind Poison EE3, let it stick, then switch back to my DXR6 and use Scatter Shot 2. It takes their mind down fairly quickly and sets them up for the kill easily.









Not with the new resist buffs.


I hae a mind poison spraystick btw.




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Scythro
Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:23 pm
#22





Shakaeq wrote:





Scythro wrote:

i just recently finished BH carbines 4/master carbineer, and i have to say i love it, who said that it doesn't put out very much damage...did 800 damage with my krayt(speed sliced/cry) laser carbine in PvP, totally demolished the poor guy...

i think he was a bit suprised, anyway, point of this being, carbineer is already pretty sweet, just another damage type would rock(stun preferably). This template combined with nov brawler will own just about anything... so i hearby close this by saying that carbineer is underated and people who have never tried it need to stop ragging on it so much...it is an extremely lethal proffession when used correctly


Erenest P'Wurl

Master carbineer/ BH carbines 4/TKA combat tree





I was strictly speaking of Carbineer, not a whole other added profession, Bounty Hunter. The person you hit for 800 was most likely a non ranged mitigated person.(if not, then good one). I hit a guy the other night for 1300 in the combat window in pvp with myT21(since you were talking numbers). I have been rifleman for 7 months and have never, even been killed by a carbineer.(had a couple in my guild too).Not saying it couldn't be done, just saying it never has happened.Like Seanblader said, IF mind was healable then it might be a different. I feel our Legshot3 damage modifier would need to be higher as well. Targeted pool damage is the best way against well prepared opponents from my experience.


I gather KD/dizzy might be part or your attack, if so.....its tough to KD someone on Thakatillo








If I fight someone with Thakatillo, I usually just pull out my Mind Poison EE3, let it stick, then switch back to my DXR6 and use Scatter Shot 2. It takes their mind down fairly quickly and sets them up for the kill easily.



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hmmmmmmmmmmm, the guy was TKM/Master swordsman, and even with the psn resist buffs, it's gonna stick eventually, especially when you're speed capped, and btw, carbineer is worthless without BH carbines, so BH carbines along with carbineer is a given man, and for when they do fix leg shot 3 i got my 300 action psn EE3 ready to go...and believe me, i could hang with you on a duel, even if you have never been beaten by a carbineer...too bad im on eclipse...oh well, i'll close by saying carbineer is completely underated.


Erernest P'Wurl

Eclipse
carbineer extraordinare



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YamadaMan
Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:52 pm
#23

carbineer's strong enough to get FOTM, simply underused. let's the other peeps think that we're weak... with my current template i fear NO ONE xcept the best tacticans out there.

def stackers
mind targetters
FOTMers
self healers
etc...

no one



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Brilyn
Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:55 am
#24

< Just give us a more powerful version of the DXR6, andwe will more than likely become a FOTM >


You mean like a Krayt DXR?



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TheSIthian
Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:56 am
#25

What, exactly in your opinion makes Carbineer completly worthless without BH Carbines? The speed issue?
Shakaeq
Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:34 am
#26




Scythro wrote:
hmmmmmmmmmmm, the guy was TKM/Master swordsman, and even with the psn resist buffs, it's gonna stick eventually, especially when you're speed capped, and btw, carbineer is worthless without BH carbines, so BH carbines along with carbineer is a given man, and for when they do fix leg shot 3 i got my 300 action psn EE3 ready to go...and believe me, i could hang with you on a duel, even if you have never been beaten by a carbineer...too bad im on eclipse...oh well, i'll close by saying carbineer is completely underated.


Erernest P'Wurl

Eclipse
carbineer extraordinare






So he didn't have ranged mitigation.Those all melee get torn up pretty good by ranged fire. Just gotta kite. BH with carbine isn't worth the points in my template. I like having good PvE and PvP abilities. Master rifle is a lot less points and leaves room for master brawler and a master melee elite. just my preference. I have +19 in speed for carbine. Still playing around with it. I think is great fun for low to mid level stuff, but I find myself scrambling against higher stuff still or at the least taking forever to kill the mob(s). I still have to use 3 sec and faster carbines though or my DPS goes to hell.Was on Lok the other night getting leathery hide when I came across a kimo spawn. I thought, BAH, easy Done em with rifle unbuffed, no armor, np. I start blastin...and see 150-300 over its head...**edit**...ug. good thing I was buffed with armor. Here is a shot of the kind of damage done by a Jawa rifle unbuffed, unarmored. I never got hit.:



/shrug.

Message Edited by Shakaeq on 08-12-2004 01:48 PM



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