Carbineer Archive

Thread: 30 second timer nerfs PvE carbine skill... should we all train Creature Handler now?

HeDrums
Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:35 pm
#14

I despise the notion of creatures in this game. They are antithetical to the whole spirit of Star Wars. As are brawlers, but that's another story.


Now, basically, I've been forced by a bunch of dumbass developers to get a friggin' creature. Which I hate, and have been avoiding, but since NONE of my specials are worth a **edit** any more, I guess I'll cave and get a critter. Or just stop playing... this game is getting less rewarding and more frustrating with every ill-conceived improvement rolled out by the Ringling Bros. & SOE Development Group.


Your only choice now seems to be CH + BH with LLC. And you thought it was laggy before...

Ron_in
Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:07 pm
#15

Let's face it, this is Star Wars, not jurassic park, some changes need to be made. In the meantime, they give out worthless answers meant to buy time so a fraction of the work that should/needs to be done can be done. A fraction! But that is the way the programing world works. They set a deadline, make excuses and push it back six months; then they realize they sat on their arses too long and need another extension while putting together a piecemeal report. This is a far from finished product, but then, is any online rpg? So the question comes to do we wait and let them milk us for more money (which some of them probably don't need), or do we go to ebay and try to recooperate some of our loses? Yet, do we want to make our current problems someone else's? That sounds a lot like what the devs are doing to us, here's something you want (or at least you want what it's supposed to be) you deal with the problems. I trust the devs will get it done eventually, but patience only lasts so long. Why carbineer can't be focused on more sounds like a problem in the dev's list of priorities. Maybe they just need a new manager to kick these programmers butts back into line and get the world back to the way it should be.



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Vamduir
Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:29 pm
#16

CHANGE IT BACK IM DYING TOO MUCH

CHANGE IT BACK
TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO POST EVEN IF THEY DONT USE THESE SHOTS
CHANGE IT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO
NO
NO
WE CAN TLET THEM DO THIS!!!!




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Blingy
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:28 pm
#17

It was too easy before.


As a Novice Carbineer I had no problem soloing red con's with alternating Leg Shot 2 and Action Shot 2. In fact, alot of the times, they never got within 20m of me. Now its much harder and maybe its just me, but I like it. One thing that should be changed though is that posture changes SHOULD last for 10-15 seconds, not the 2-3 seconds they do now. If thats corrected Carbineer will still be a useful combat class.




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Maudzen
Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:00 pm
#18

waht the hell is a master carbineer supose to do now?
rs1990
Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:01 pm
#19

An added bonus to all that was mentioned above is that I again seem to be missing about 50%-60% of my shots. I was just fighting some womps on Tat and missed 5 of my first 7 shots. That is just pitifull. I agree, they are really killing our class. I don't want to go CH, but what other choices are they giving us?



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guzz
Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:53 pm
#20

Someone said that this made the game a lot harder.. and it SHOULD be at lot harder. How fun is it when everyone is just running around soloing everything.
Skrymir
Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:41 am
#21

you can get a probot, a level 15 creature, and 3 faction pets without training creature handler at all.

MCPP
Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:07 am
#22

dont be a moron.. and stop complaining.



the KD nerf and 30 sec timer are an amazingly good idea foro a balance. actually i think a 30 sec timer on posture change makes the skill worthless now except in a very small number of circumstances... um, which is where a skill like this should be put. I was soloing huge creatures using suppression fire spam... that is not correct. although you seem to think CH's are the only ones with the ability to "tank" large targets now. you are incorrect. I have a pet and am not a CH i use it to tank large animals, but to be honest suppression fire spam was way to strong as well as KD spam. there are at least 4 other ways to "tank" targets like sppression fire and KD that are still in the game. they are harder and more legitimate tacticks, but dont complain about the KD nerf,, you apparently never PVP or you would rejoice that carbineers actually have a chance of beating pistoleers now that KD is dead.

Ajo79
Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:37 am
#23

The way it was, it was pretty easy. I mean a shot that stop the mob in his tracks, keeping it away from you. I think thats realy just too good. I've never before in any game seen a attack like this. It was just too good.


The devs made the game WAY to easy to begin with. We're getting closer now to the way it should have been. Ppl have a hard time acceptingthat it seems like.




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Kaellok
Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:43 am
#24




i said it in anoather post, MCPP. shut up and go away. troll.


the 30 second timer is a bad ida. 15 seconds? ok, that's better. having the timer linked to the special used? hey, i'd go for 30 second timer between specials. but why, oh why, what sense under all that is holy (and unholy and all between) can i not knock someone down because FRED did!? there have been a LARGE number of proposed fixes which are ALL much better than the 30-second timer tied to the target of the kd/pc. this is the most retarded thing since individually wrapped bites of yogurt.

makalas
Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:48 am
#25

--Someone said that this made the game a lot harder.. and it SHOULD be at lot harder. How fun is it when everyone is just running around soloing everything. --


Dude dont defend stupidity. For PvP its great but for PvE its stupid. No thought or foresight couldve possibly went into putting posture changes and KD on a 30 second timer and here is why: crowd control.


who do you think is going to take the roll of combat classes now? I can tell you it wont be me. I have no intention of going of grouping up with a bunch of people to hit the squill caves or endor or fort tusken or anything else anymore. why? because i dont feel like spending all my time incapped because all of my docs and medics are totally defenseless and so am i. there is no point to hunting now because the second the timer starts either you will be torn to shreds or your docs and medics will and any effort to knock down the attacking mob or posture change it is hopeless. In this one day i have spent more time on my back than any other day since i started playing SWG and im not talking about soloing reds im talking about 2 or 3 blues incapping me. afterwards (assuming they dont db me) i lay there and watch them all bleed to death and get all this xp while im incapped.


crowd control is a major element of any successful group. the nerf we took today does nothing--zero--to encourage cooperation or group play in this game; the only thing it does is encourage everyone to be a CH. i am so sick of everyone i see having a **edit**ing zoo following them around. BOOM BOOM BOOM all day long.


I did it though. I took novice CH despite the fact that i hate messing with pets. Im almost a master medic and i am 4-2-0-2 in carbineer and yet i cant even solo a white con mob with a partial suit of excellent HAM sliced composite on and the best weapons money can buy all sliced by a master smuggler.


gee what fun. what point is there now to going up in the carbineer tree? actionshot2 is obtained at novice level and thats only good for the bleed assuming you can live long enough for a mob to bleed to death.


what the devs essentially did today was make every single player who is NOT a creature handler completely useless in combat.


sorry but SOE dropped the ball BIGTIME and some of you can defend this idiocy all you want but the ways in which the state of the game changes will quickly change your mind.




MachalaS EterA
MCPP
Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:53 am
#26

kaellok **edit**!?!? do you read!!! over half the people in this post agree with me, stop following me, you are the one being the troll my friend,, just because someone doesnt post often doesnt make them a troll, stop being a tard.
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