Carbineer Archive
Thread: Possible HAM changes
novamarine
Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:48 am
#14
I am under the impression this is more of an announcement than the typical in concept posts. I expect to see this sooner rather than later.
Tagaar
Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:59 am
#15
I'm gonna go ahead and admit it. I'm not gonna sift through 29 pages of user posts 
Was there anything specifically posted in regards to Carbines?
I'm very interested in the proposed change, as it will greatly aid the combat and flavor of the game, in my opinion.
Regardless, Novamarine, throw me on the list for whatever you decide, i trust your decision 
TAfirehawk
Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:04 pm
#16
novamarine wrote:
But the TH also said this week that they were going to roll out mini-patches every 2 weeks with combat fixes.
But they could have been releasing these 6 months ago.....or if they had done the work and were waiting on the Combat Balance to do it at once, then lets see them all right now.....
Come on now, 2 + 2 does not = 5 as TH would lead us to believe here.....they haven't touched the CB in 6 months and now tell us there are not enough Devs to go around and the CB is a lower priority....so what in the world are the gonna do with no people....
Smells like TUNA....
memnoch37
Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:04 pm
#17
This definatly does not sound like a mini fix.A change of this magnitude sounds like it would require a major redesign ofmany different systems, including a new UI.His post sounds like a reworded design doc, and it's in the In Concept forum. I'd be extremely surprised to see this hit before JtL... but this is all speculation on my part. If you think they can put this in relativly soon, that would be very, very, very cool.
Message Edited by memnoch37 on 07-23-2004 03:05 PM
Doq_Utek
Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:06 pm
#18
I got the same impression as Nova. That this was going to be put on the fast track and introduced asap.TH certainly doesn't say that anywhere but when put together with his comments about introduing mini-patches focused on combat, the fact thatatleast part of this code has already been written, and the player outcry from the postponement of a full revamp, this would seem like a likley start.
RebelKangaroo
Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:19 pm
#19
I kinda like this idea personally, though I do think the carbine cost should be cut at least a little bit. As for other professions, the mind cost for rifles is insane and entertainer buffs are nowhere near as good as doc buffs so hopefully we'll see less spam of headshot3 and such. Hopefully this will even out the profs at least a little bit so maybe every pvp kid won't be a rifle/cm anymore.
Nova, I'm with you on thinking this sounds like something they've been working on allready. I'm under the impression that they knew the combat balance would be delayed and have been working on stuff like this in the interim.
I hope....
EisMan_Buckeye
Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:30 pm
#21
Have you read THIS interview? TA says they haven't touched the CB in 6 months... I don't think they ever touched it AT ALL. After reading this interview, it is clear to me that they don't even have theirgoals layed out yet, let alone methods of achieving these goals.
It's all rather pointless to me now. If the revamp is not out by the time Ghost Recon 2 comes out this winter (which is all but impossible), I'm cancelling my accounts and going back to my beloved UBI Soft/Redstorm Tom Clancy games. I refuse to spend my hard earned money on a monthly fee for a game that continuously lets me down time after time.
DarthHossith
Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:33 pm
#22
"The fact that these are coming after doesn’t mean that they necessarily got pushed; it means that now you know when is coming out."
That... is a bald face lie... JustG posted a schedual and said something to the effect of 'this is the order in which we are doing things'
so does Blackman really know what is going on, or does he come by once a month and say 'OK, I'm here; how can we make more money without doing much more work?'
TAfirehawk
Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:04 am
#23
Tagaar wrote:
I'm gonna go ahead and admit it. I'm not gonna sift through 29 pages of user posts
Was there anything specifically posted in regards to Carbines?
I'm very interested in the proposed change, as it will greatly aid the combat and flavor of the game, in my opinion.
Regardless, Novamarine, throw me on the list for whatever you decide, i trust your decision
There is only ONE Dev post....that is not much sifting 
memnoch37
Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:32 am
#24
novamarine wrote:
I am under the impression this is more of an announcement than the typical in concept posts. I expect to see this sooner rather than later.
I got the exact opposite impression, based on this comment from TH:
The design documents for the combat revamp will start appearing in the In-Concept and In-Development sections of the website within two weeks, so we can get your feedback during the front end of the design process.
(taken from this thread)
Message Edited by memnoch37 on 07-23-2004 02:36 PM
La-grange
Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:43 am
#25
Still, this is sickening. Eight months of combat revamp hipe and they have done nothing?
novamarine
Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:47 am
#26
But the TH also said this week that they were going to roll out mini-patches every 2 weeks with combat fixes.