Carbineer Archive
Thread: Carbineer Combat Upgrade Sandbox Testers Updated
AdmiralSpy
Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:45 pm
#14
Sounds good.
It's just that with so many rumors of "diminishing returns" as far as accuracy and defenses go, and a new speed formula and special attack cost.. I'd wanna get prepared beforehand.
Of course, such information would probably be illegal for you to leak down to me.. buuuut.. sometimes doing the right thing is doing the wrong thing.. haha j/k. 
Icouldn't ever see myself changing my template unless the Combat Upgrade renditioned my speed SEAs useless, at which point I'd cry (for hours on end and even days!) and pick up the necessary skillset.
Message Edited by AdmiralSpy on 10-11-2004 08:46 PM
Betatoxin
Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:36 am
#15
TAfirehawk wrote:I believe I might be the only one to NOT have played BH on LIVE.....I prefer to stack defenses in the current game, but who knows what will be FotM in the Combat Upgrade. While not saying too much, I can say that your common sense should lead you to believe stacking in any form is going to be better than a single combat prof.....so expect that trend to continue...somebody using 250 Skill Points should be better than a person using 92 Skill PointsAnd remember, I have spent most of my Carbineer career with SEA's......BTW, these guys will be playing the template I tell them to playMessage Edited by TAfirehawk on 10-11-2004 02:23 PM
This is entirely reasonable that you should get return on your point investment. I would just like to see more ways to make that investment.
For example right now brawler is very strong compared to marksmen for a variety of reasons and this directly effects the strength of the elite professions that depend on them.
My hope out of the combat balance would be that MCarb+MRifle+Pistol Defense, or MCarb+MPistol+MMarksmen would be as powerful in a variety of situations as M2HSword+MBrawler+Fencer+TK. I do not see that being the case at the moment, often because ranged profs do not mesh nearly as well as melee, and the power of the novice profession brawler compared to marksmen. MBrawler is a superb anchor to all melee professions, MMarksmen is what people get to be BH.
I am very interested in seeing a good balance come out of this for ranged templates vs melee, assuming 250 points spent. One part of that has to be make sure that the elite ranged mesh together better along with get actual benefits from marksmen, besides a small amount of skill mods.
TAfirehawk
Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:25 pm
#16
wilibus wrote:
He's gone mad with power ... i mean happy to serve master
Oh that is gonna cost ya.....I might make you be the one to do the Carbineer/Dancer/Musician template 
JanuHull
Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:57 am
#18
Daaaaaaaaaaamn, that crit failed CDEF is looking all warm and cuddly now...
TAfirehawk wrote:
wilibus wrote:
He's gone mad with power ... i mean happy to serve master
Oh that is gonna cost ya.....I might make you be the one to do the Carbineer/Dancer/Musician template
wilibus
Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:35 am
#19
Jealous ... i thought so
JanuHull wrote:
Daaaaaaaaaaamn, that crit failed CDEF is looking all warm and cuddly now...
TAfirehawk wrote:
wilibus wrote:
He's gone mad with power ... i mean happy to serve master
Oh that is gonna cost ya.....I might make you be the one to do the Carbineer/Dancer/Musician template
DiLune
Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:45 pm
#20
TAfirehawk wrote:
wilibus wrote:
He's gone mad with power ... i mean happy to serve master
Oh that is gonna cost ya.....I might make you be the one to do the Carbineer/Dancer/Musician template
Hardly. Carbineer/ID/Politician is the real quandry. You should put your best man on that one...
OnlyMaestro
Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:20 pm
#21
Could be worse. Could be Carbineer/BE/BH Investigation line or something.
Talk about one massive fun grind! 
h310ise
Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:04 am
#22
"But sadly the exact number can't be that high as it is dependant on the hardware setup we will have available."
lol i love the crack team of megahamsters SOE is devoting to support the sandbox. What, they couldn't spring for new hardware? hrm, i have some extra space on one of my servers... maybe some SOE relief is in order. Send your old servers, or details of resources available on-line to.... Alternately mabye we could use some kind of seti-at-home program, each of us dedicating a few unused clock cycles to help support the sandbox testers until SOE can afford the hardware it needs.
seriously, i mean, it's only the most important, delayed, and nearly-impossible-to-do-well thing they've (had on their plate for a year) done since release and they can't set up a server that supports more than about 150 users?
I didn't think my confidence could sink lower, but look, it has! Ah, SWG, the prettiest IRC in existence.
llilh
lol i love the crack team of megahamsters SOE is devoting to support the sandbox. What, they couldn't spring for new hardware? hrm, i have some extra space on one of my servers... maybe some SOE relief is in order. Send your old servers, or details of resources available on-line to.... Alternately mabye we could use some kind of seti-at-home program, each of us dedicating a few unused clock cycles to help support the sandbox testers until SOE can afford the hardware it needs.
seriously, i mean, it's only the most important, delayed, and nearly-impossible-to-do-well thing they've (had on their plate for a year) done since release and they can't set up a server that supports more than about 150 users?
I didn't think my confidence could sink lower, but look, it has! Ah, SWG, the prettiest IRC in existence.
llilh
SashaStargazer
Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:56 am
#23
JanuHull wrote:Daaaaaaaaaaamn, that crit failed CDEF is looking all warm and cuddly now...
TAfirehawk wrote:
wilibus wrote:He's gone mad with power ... i mean happy to serve masterOh that is gonna cost ya.....I might make you be the one to do the Carbineer/Dancer/Musician template
What's wrong with Dancer/Carbineer? It's how I started the game before I became a bada$$. PFFFT! I'll go to the sandbox and be the Carbineer Dancer.
TAfirehawk
Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:54 am
#25
Another One-Star here too.....
Obviously I made a good choice by not including one of the applicants if they stoop this low.....
OryakaDrake
Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:30 am
#26
So, when does thetesting begin. cause the later the sandbox the later the combat revamp. i mean we are already looking at post christmas here am i right?
Oryaka Drake
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