Carbineer Archive

Thread: Range Defense Is it worth it?

Rorenikibi
Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:04 am
#14






TAfirehawk wrote:





Rorenikibi wrote:

You'll have to explain that one a bit. Its a nice one, but aside from Acid damage, what separates it from the Elite? Acid is still just as hampered by Composite as the Elite,and in terms of speed, the Enhanced E11 pretty much shreds it.



With State effects andthe chore ofsticking thembecoming more crucial to our profession, it still seems too slow to be an effective weapon for a Carbineer without some serious SEAs. (Please note: SEA's aren't that common in the levels needed to max out.)







Quite simply what Nova brought up, Acid is vuln to a Prototype PSG whereas Energy in the E11 and Elite are 40-60% resisted.....


To me that says it all when the DPS on the weapons themselves is less than 5% different....


Most everybody I know is using a PSG for Stun protection so the DXR6 is the NEW PvP weapon of choice IMO.







Noted.




Captain Janu Hull CFA-7
In the event of an emergency, this pilot's ego may be used as a floatation device.


novamarine
Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:09 am
#15






TAfirehawk wrote:





Rorenikibi wrote:

You'll have to explain that one a bit. Its a nice one, but aside from Acid damage, what separates it from the Elite? Acid is still just as hampered by Composite as the Elite,and in terms of speed, the Enhanced E11 pretty much shreds it.



With State effects andthe chore ofsticking thembecoming more crucial to our profession, it still seems too slow to be an effective weapon for a Carbineer without some serious SEAs. (Please note: SEA's aren't that common in the levels needed to max out.)







Quite simply what Nova brought up, Acid is vuln to a Prototype PSG whereas Energy in the E11 and Elite are 40-60% resisted.....


To me that says it all when the DPS on the weapons themselves is less than 5% different....


Most everybody I know is using a PSG for Stun protection so the DXR6 is the NEW PvP weapon of choice IMO.






Bingo. Why oh why I don't understand, but the Devs fixed the PSG prior to the combat revamp. They have very good energy resist such that energy weapons are largely useless against prepared opponents. The DXR6 is our best choice since the PSG is vulnerable to acid. The problem is, the DXR6 is the worst or one of worst DPS weapons we have. They usually have slightly less damage than a similarily made elite and usually are a tad slower as well. In addition, I find they have lower accuracy as well.


I have actually toned down my PvP almost to a nill since the PSGs were fixed. It is so difficult to kill people now that I just don't see the point in PvP anymore. I want people duel and they can't even damage each other. The whole system has spiraled completely out of control.


Kaelle_DB
Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:10 am
#16






FoeHammerOne wrote:
PSGs only work if it is the only armor equiped.





Wrong.


your combat log can show:


Mike uses last ditch on you for 500 damage

your PSG absorbed 200 damage

your composite armor left bicep absorbed 200 damage

your added toughness (synthsteak) absorbed 50 damage



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TAfirehawk
Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:20 am
#17






FoeHammerOne wrote:
PSGs only work if it is the only armor equiped.






LOL, NOOB



Mine works all the time thank you VERY MUCH. I beat the **edit** out of one while testing ScatterShot2 in FULL Comp



Oh I also have Combat Log files saved showing this and hand-recorded "floating numbers" above my head that prove they even WORK correctly.....


Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 06-14-2004 01:21 PM



Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

TAfirehawk
Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:24 am
#18






novamarine wrote:





TAfirehawk wrote:





Rorenikibi wrote:

You'll have to explain that one a bit. Its a nice one, but aside from Acid damage, what separates it from the Elite? Acid is still just as hampered by Composite as the Elite,and in terms of speed, the Enhanced E11 pretty much shreds it.



With State effects andthe chore ofsticking thembecoming more crucial to our profession, it still seems too slow to be an effective weapon for a Carbineer without some serious SEAs. (Please note: SEA's aren't that common in the levels needed to max out.)







Quite simply what Nova brought up, Acid is vuln to a Prototype PSG whereas Energy in the E11 and Elite are 40-60% resisted.....


To me that says it all when the DPS on the weapons themselves is less than 5% different....


Most everybody I know is using a PSG for Stun protection so the DXR6 is the NEW PvP weapon of choice IMO.






Bingo. Why oh why I don't understand, but the Devs fixed the PSG prior to the combat revamp. They have very good energy resist such that energy weapons are largely useless against prepared opponents. The DXR6 is our best choice since the PSG is vulnerable to acid. The problem is, the DXR6 is the worst or one of worst DPS weapons we have. They usually have slightly less damage than a similarily made elite and usually are a tad slower as well. In addition, I find they have lower accuracy as well.


I have actually toned down my PvP almost to a nill since the PSGs were fixed. It is so difficult to kill people now that I just don't see the point in PvP anymore. I want people duel and they can't even damage each other. The whole system has spiraled completely out of control.








Comp Armor and PSG is so sad......I took out a Master Pistoleer and Apprentice Jedi when I was NOT buffed.....and I incapped them twice in a friendly duel.


In fact PvP is such a waste I dropped 13 skill boxes to go play Musician to get a jump on the quests for a few FS skills.....sad sad sad day......





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

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