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Thread: crippling shot uh ? can't get what is special with that one...

Easy-Exanip
Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:42 pm
#14

Dps is a good number to go by, but when you can do alot of damage at once, 1000 points in pvp, is good. 40% more damage over time maybe an increase but being able to empty a ham bar all in one shot is worth the 3 sec delay. Do I recommend spam this shot, by all means no! Crippling shot has a use even for use 60 speed carbineers, but spamming it is by no means the answer, think of it as the finishing move.


Easy-Ex


kt2000tx
Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:54 pm
#15

I'm a Master Bounty Hunter and plan to augment that with 0-3-4-0 Carbineer. The combo of spray + fire kd + crippling will own in PVE. My Carbine speed is +85 right now, but there are plenty of powerups out there to push me to the cap. I soloed Fort Tusken with mediocre buffs (1400 stats, double brandy shot) thanks in large part to just the confusion + spray + fire KD combo and then finished them off with Torso shot on the scatter pistol. As a MBH I start all of my attacks with a carbine for state control of course.
kt2000tx
Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:56 pm
#16

It's just a shame Fire KD doesn't work well in PVP. BH is a purely PVE profession all the way unless you have spray shot which doesn't come until Master level.
TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:13 am
#17






Easy-Exanip wrote:





ThillinGer wrote:

Yea... just got crippling shot my self today cause alot of people tell me it owns... but its funny that i find Fullautosingle 2 has more dmg and DPS O_o






Only use crippling shot if, you have 20 or so in speed tapes or the target is knocked over. I have crippling shot people in pvp for 1400 damage. I have also hit things in pve for over 6000 damage.






6,000 damage sounds off the chart.....but lets look at a 500 max damage Laser Carbine.


7.5X CripplingShot Modifier
1.5X AP/AR Modifier on AP0 target
1.5X KD Modifier


Results in a max possible hit of 8,438


YUMMY



BTW, my Laser Carbine is max 480 with 1.8 Speed......which caps at +78 Carbine Speed


Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 06-07-2004 03:18 PM



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TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:19 am
#18






Easy-Exanip wrote:

Dps is a good number to go by, but when you can do alot of damage at once, 1000 points in pvp, is good. 40% more damage over time maybe an increase but being able to empty a ham bar all in one shot is worth the 3 sec delay. Do I recommend spam this shot, by all means no! Crippling shot has a use even for use 60 speed carbineers, but spamming it is by no means the answer, think of it as the finishing move.


Easy-Ex









1000 points in PvP my arse.....


A 500 max damage Laser Carbine against a NON-mitigation opponent with 80% Comp Armor will take a max of 234 damage......



BTW, Ranged Mitigation Level 3 will take a 100/500 Laser Carbine down to 121 max damage against the same armor.....



1000 points my arse.....





Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

Rorenikibi
Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:37 am
#19

I smell an incomplete set of armor on the target, or something fishy about the carbine in use.


The only time in PvP where I've done hundreds, not even a thousand, points of damage against a comp armored target was when he was KD'd. I managed to put down a Power boosted TKM with 2000 Mind in 5 shots using ScatterShot2. (Talk about your lucky spreads on the damage.)


But that was frickin' rare.




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Easy-Exanip
Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:00 am
#20






TAfirehawk wrote:





Easy-Exanip wrote:

Dps is a good number to go by, but when you can do alot of damage at once, 1000 points in pvp, is good. 40% more damage over time maybe an increase but being able to empty a ham bar all in one shot is worth the 3 sec delay. Do I recommend spam this shot, by all means no! Crippling shot has a use even for use 60 speed carbineers, but spamming it is by no means the answer, think of it as the finishing move.


Easy-Ex









1000 points in PvP my arse.....


A 500 max damage Laser Carbine against a NON-mitigation opponent with 80% Comp Armor will take a max of 234 damage......



BTW, Ranged Mitigation Level 3 will take a 100/500 Laser Carbine down to 121 max damage against the same armor.....



1000 points my arse.....









Ya know TA you walk around this forum like you know what you are talking about, but you repeatedly open your mouth to change feet! Your attitude is **edit**ty!


I have done 1000 point of damage in pvp, to a fencer who was not wearing armour. No midigation against it.


Go read your stickies!

TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:24 am
#21






Easy-Exanip wrote:







After further consideration you don't deserve my response.....



And my contributions speak for themselves around here....


Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 06-08-2004 12:52 PM



Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

EisMan_Buckeye
Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:28 pm
#22

I think TA is talking about DPS, where as Easy is talking about max damage. Ihit some guy a little over 1500 once in PvP, according to the combat spam (remember, the combat spam is before armor and defensive buffs), but there are a few things that made that possible that you are not alwways fortunate to have happen. I Kded him, he wasn't wearing armor, it was a laser carb so I assume he had no ranged mitigation. Also, I can't remember if I had any states on him, but there may have been states, and his BF may have been high. None the less, it can be done, just not as often as I would like lol.



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TAfirehawk
Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:26 pm
#23

Bull**edit**


I am talking about MAX damage in normal PvP, not some lame arse non-armor target.....gimme a freakin break.....






Iebas Feania
Former Correspondent of the Former Profession, CARBINEER

MoonhellWarriors
Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:11 am
#24






Easy-Exanip wrote:

Dps is a good number to go by, but when you can do alot of damage at once, 1000 points in pvp, is good. 40% more damage over time maybe an increase but being able to empty a ham bar all in one shot is worth the 3 sec delay. Do I recommend spam this shot, by all means no! Crippling shot has a use even for use 60 speed carbineers, but spamming it is by no means the answer, think of it as the finishing move.


Easy-Ex









Dude I pvp daily, I mostly log to pvp... I have been overt for 3 weeks in a row.. I solo pvp and do good but my main area is support.. I have DH17 carbines with 530 max damage and with +81 ideal range... I have laser carbines with 630 max damage... If there is one thing you cannot do... is: 1000 damage in pvp lol


When I fight someone unarmored... my DH17 will destroy him in a matter of seconds but never will I have 1000 damage. As for cripple shot, i'm starting to believe it tracks your target weakness... Most of the time I use it, it will hit my target right on a spot with no armor.. ((this is only my personnal rumor.. try it and see..)) I might be lucky or simply right..



Trust me if I cold make 1000 damage on people, I would be in heaven... Yes you can do up to 20K damage on lair that doesn't count.





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Rorenikibi
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:06 am
#25

Riflemen can't even break the 1000 point barrier in PvP.



Last night I was fighting a Rifleman/CM who was only managing 636 Mind damage on me with HeadShot3 (636 was the floaty number over my head) with a T-21. I was wearing a 70% Composite helmet.


FYI, I got the **edit**, though. Took the DB before getting popped by a token Mind shot from a Master Musician/Medic who GTEF'd when the poison finally wiped me. I <3 FullAutoSingle2/ChargeShot1 (Hey TAF, only shot TWO CS1s, I'm getting there )




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piezo
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:21 am
#26

Vs unarmored people riflemen can easily do over 1000 in pvp, so can swordsmen.



I used to be m-rifle/m-swordsman, and i can tell you that i lived for the days when i would catch a person overt with no helmet. They generally got oneshotted(that was mostly before mitigation, but still happened occasionally afterwards, if i caught someone with the wrong type vs mitigation)



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