Carbineer Archive
Thread: There are no issues with carabineer in pvp
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RobbPilot
Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:17 pm
#14
OnlyMaestro wrote:
Fire on my 80% armor resists to heat, energy and acid, while I eat KD food.
I'll fire Headhit3 at speed cap with my Krayt Jawa Rifle. I win, you lose 100% of the time.
I think that is true, but that illustrates a different problem that will probably be handled in an upcoming patch. I hope rifleman doesn't get nerfed too hard when it does get hit.
OnlyMaestro
Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:14 pm
#15
Carbines IRL are not assault weapons.
Star Wars is not RL.
In Star Wars they barely mentioned Carbines.
...the devs love rifleman. 
TyphonSet
Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:38 pm
#16
In Star Wars they barely mentioned Carbines.
I remember all The Stormtroopers Carrying E11 Carbines u need to watch the movie again it seems.....
AriasImmortal
Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:29 pm
#17
heh, the only carbineer to ever beat me in PvP was using a laser that was hitting me for 600 damage after mitigation and was a BH/carbineer. And i beat him 3 times beforehand, so that doesn't say much for him.
OnlyMaestro
Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:29 pm
#18
TyphonSet wrote:
In Star Wars they barely mentioned Carbines.
I remember all The Stormtroopers Carrying E11 Carbines u need to watch the movie again it seems.....
You never ever ever hear a Stormtrooper ever say in any of the movies, "Hey! Toss me my E-11 Carbine."
In the EU, they barely mention it.
If I'm wrong, forward me the script online that shows that. They never mention weapons by name in the movies, they just say, "Hand me that blaster," or "Give'em your crossbow," or "Where's my rifle?"
buster
Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:08 pm
#19
what does wether they mention them in EU have anything to do with what we're talkin about here kid? granted, like typhon said, Carbines are the standard weapon of the imperial stormtroopers. they all carry E11 or Elite Carbines. i know the game isn't like the movie. i just think carbineers need more speed
WufgarRuffian
Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:05 pm
#20
OnlyM- what ya think the military's prefered assault weapon is? try m16a2 or m4 CARBINE
Spyce_Slanga
Sat Apr 24, 2004 2:18 am
#21
Lycantha wrote:
Spyce_Slanga wrote:
Dont say there is cause there isnt im too good as it is. I dont pve by the way so i wouldnt know about that stuff.
what are you doing? Ganking unbuffed newbies in AH?
Wouldn't know about PvE? what? did the Carbine Fairy just wave her wandto give you the exp to level?
Go Away. You're an idiot.
Lasai Bilof
Master Carbine / BH Carb III / Novice Med
Howd you guess i was ganking unbuffed newbies in anchorhead... Oh wait my signature. Yeah well i havent been in any caves i havent done the corvette, ive killed one krayt in this entire game span all i do is pvp. I lvled it in a week thats pretty much the last time i pved.
I dont have a uber gun not even a krayt... I beat guys who are buffed with 80% armor and spamming headshot with a jawa if you havent figured out how to do this yet you just need more playing time or to ask how carbines can compete in pvp rather then flaming people.
Tyrst
Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:12 am
#22
I have to agree with Shyne here. I have some great weapons but seeing as how I don't want to waste them when I don't need to they only come out in emergencies. I PvPd on a daily basis with M-Carbines/BH Carbines and this combo for my playing style rules. I am the king of kiters and if you come to me unprepared for it I will send you to the cloner. Here are my tactics with this combo:
1. Confusion shot. This is the best Stun/Dizzy special I have. If I didn't have this Wild Shot till I stun the FAS2 till I dizzy.
2. Chargeshot1. This is the best KD special.
3. Crippleshot. Highest Damage special.
4. Repeat #1 when I see them start to get up.
5. Actionshot1. Best PD special we have.
6. Repeat #3 when they fall down.
This is for a single opponent. For multiple opponents I always target the closest since they are usually melee.
1.Wildshot2. This is the best AOE stun we have.
2. FAA2. This is the best AOE Stun/Dizzy/Blind specialwe have.
3. Chargeshot2. This is theonly AOEKD special.
4. Burstshot2. Highest AOE Damage special.
5. Repeat #1
6. Actionshot2.Only AOEPD special we have.
7. Repeat #4
By following these combinations you prevent yourself from standing them back up from spamming KD. The problem with all KD attacks is if you hit them more than once they automagically stand up. This should not keep them down but should instead not just not do anything but the damage. Also by following this set of special you will not put everyone on thier back but enough will go down to take the heat off. The only problem now is Thakatillo completely negates any KD we have. On Kauri we have +100 KD Def Thakatillo and I have yet to KD anyone that is on it. So they may have fixed CS but the nerfed us with the food. Almost everyone is vulnerable to the PD effects of Actionshot so that is always my back up.
Stun carbine - Give me a stun carbine and I will kill riflemen faster thanI can kill myself almost every time. I would still like to see the Elite moved to AP2 and fix the splash damage on the EE3 to work. Give us these and I could care less about anything else for PvP issues. We would be the elite class for taking on groups.
JerikArca
Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:24 pm
#23
I find this topic funny! Everyone knows unless you have stun you just can't compete in PvP it really doesn't matter if the weapon is hitting mind or not (see Fencer). My current carbines hit for 1000 dmg before any armor or mitigation, and I can KD any NPC out there, but I just can't compete in PvP. The stun weapons just slice through my armor even when it has a stun layer. I'd go crazy if carbiners got a stun weapon that did half or even less the damage of one of my normal PvP weapons. I don't think anyone can really ignore 500dmg shots (stun damage) in pvp. Armor needs a nerf or everyone needs a weapon upgrade. And with the overpowering of players against MOBs/NPCs as is I vote for the armor nerf.
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