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Thread: Carbineer PvP Help

TAfirehawk
Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:57 pm
#14






Elapidae wrote:
actually, your wrong

with BH 0400 and Carbineer 1000
You have a speed of +90.
With this you can speed cap the slowest special on a 4.2 speed gun.

Character builder:
http://swgcb.yogn.net/swg-cb.php?da=1

Speed Calculator:
http://killyourpc.org/swg/swg_dps.php

Please don't post what you don't know.






OUCH


+90 Carbine Speed caps a 4.0 speed Carbine.....per the FAQ section done by some guy named TAfirehawk....and per that link you gave even....


That DPS Calculator rounds the numbers, but they are shown in BLACK which Specials are not capped at4.2





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vipers221
Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:48 pm
#15

please take the falming to another thread, the argument is done, I'm glad you both want to contribute, but their is no need to fight about it.



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MaximDakaar
Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:56 am
#16






Elapidae wrote:
Don't bother getting the 4xxx. With BH carbs, your speed capped at 1xxx I think.





no, it caps at 2 or 3... unless you have master BH



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MaximDakaar
Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:57 am
#17

i've got this one going

mastercarbs

bh3440

pistoleer0040


with that, i get carbines as my main weapons with the good pistolskills and the defenses from pistoleer. The ability to hunt jedi isn't "needed" but its a fun one to have.



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Otegu123
Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:31 am
#18






memnoch37 wrote:

The only reason knockdown attacks don't work well in PvP is because most people prepare for it with high def vs kd and thak. Now posture down attacks, on the other hand.... get yourself a high accuracy DoTE11 and become familiar with Action Shot 2. It works wonders in group PvP.




I find PD's just as ineffective as KD's nowadays Obviously there are some people with v.high kd defence and v.little PD defence so it works great on them... But still, so many people have high PDand KD defence :/







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Ubesane
Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:49 am
#19






AdmiralSpy wrote:

The only pitfall I see with this is a lack of melee. This template works great against Ranged opponents and Doc/CMs.. but go against anything that's considered melee and you're down pretty quick.


While keeping Master Pistoleer and the BH Pistols line is really up to you, I don't generally advise people to double up on ranged professions.. you're only able to take on 50% of the PvPers out there.





Humm...AdmiralSpy, I don't know about the need for melee as I have duel'ed several TKM's and have pwned them. The only TKM that gives me a hard time is the ones with MD behind that TKM.


If they are totaly melee stack, I use my 107-573 Laser Carbne against them. If they have ranged mitigation, I use my 232-396 DXR6. I have found ganks not fun. However, 1-vs-1 is VERY fun for me.


Ubesane


AdmiralSpy
Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:16 am
#20






Ubesane wrote:


Humm...AdmiralSpy, I don't know about the need for melee as I have duel'ed several TKM's and have pwned them. The only TKM that gives me a hard time is the ones with MD behind that TKM.


If they are totaly melee stack, I use my 107-573 Laser Carbne against them. If they have ranged mitigation, I use my 232-396 DXR6. I have found ganks not fun. However, 1-vs-1 is VERY fun for me.




I don't know, I'm kinda skeptic. All it takes is for someone to intimidate you and you're done. That's it.


Counterattack is gone, damage is cut in half (for Carbineers that's a terrible thing) and all you can do is land a few states and posture changes.. with KD/PD timers, that's like once every 30 seconds.. what do you do in the meantime?


Run, heh.


Personally, I'm Master Carbineer and Master Fencer. The only ranged build which gives me trouble are Rifle/Docs.. at which point I simply try to get up close and use a Stun Baton.


Going pure ranged is a good thing in large groups.. but there will be a situation where some melee'r comes up to you.. and to me that's just asking for a beatdown, heh. My concern isn't so much with TKMs as it is with Fencers or even Swordsmen. A Carbineer has a tough time against a Fencer, especially if he/she is stacked with Pistoleer defenses (which most are.) If they have Master Brawler in that, the game is over.


Depends on your style of play though. While I almost exclusively group up for PvP, I also like to be independant should the need arise.. mastering both a ranged and melee profession and having significant medic (0040) assures that much at the very least.







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Ubesane
Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:45 am
#21

AdmiralSpy, you are correct sir. If a melee get up on me..I'm toast...my one lose was to a Fencer cause I let them get close to me trying not to kite...that will not happen again thoug...as I will run my arse off to get awa from them.


My template is Master Carbineer/BH 0440/Pistoleer 0040/Novice Brawler.

I havethe pistol skillsincase I need to eyeshot/torso shotwith a Health Poison Geo a few times and the Brawler for warcry/intimidate.


I really like the ranged support role. I don't call myself a pure Carbineer nora pure Pistoleer as (lets face it) these days there is very few that are only a MP or a MC. Iconsider myselfboth with alittle BH to make it worthwhile.

Ubesane
APEist_theReb
Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:08 pm
#22






Elapidae wrote:
actually, your wrong

with BH 0400 and Carbineer 1000
You have a speed of +90.
With this you can speed cap the slowest special on a 4.2 speed gun.

Character builder:
http://swgcb.yogn.net/swg-cb.php?da=1

Speed Calculator:
http://killyourpc.org/swg/swg_dps.php

Please don't post what you don't know.




lol this guy is a joke. now creep back into your hole gollum, and get back to processing everything there is to know about a friggin video game.


puh puh puh pushover.





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Elapidae
Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:34 pm
#23

Who are you and do you play this game?



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RebelKangaroo
Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:49 am
#24

*singes his hand on some of the replies to this thread*

Back to useful information.
I find a nice template to combine BH 3400 and master carbines is fencer 0400. It costs more skill points then 0040 pistoleer, but I find it works just as well. The downside of course is no eyeshot with the geo using the BH and pistols skills.





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TAfirehawk
Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:38 am
#25

Thankfully the Moderator did some cleanup here





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