Carbineer Archive

Thread: Counterattack Question

pentjaksilat
Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:43 am
#14

a +dodge skill tape will do NOTHING while holding a carbine...gotta have a pistol or 1-handed sword equipped.

however, the devs expressly stated that the +dodge food will function regardless of weapon type...it's misleading that they label it as +dodge, but it'll work along w/ counterattack if holding a carbine.

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SlippMercato
Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:08 pm
#15

Ok if I "Counterattack" do I take damage and then deal out damage to the target that hit me, or do I not take damage when counterattacking? (I'm pretty sure its that I don't take damage, but I wanted to be 100% sure)



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TheShrak
Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:39 pm
#16

It works just like block and dodge. No damage to you, no damage to your target.




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Sotaudi
Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:55 pm
#17






TheShrak wrote:
It works just like block and dodge. No damage to you, no damage to your target.






Block is supposed to reduce damage by about 50%, I believe. Counterattack is supposed hit your target back with unstoppable damage. At the moment, as TheShrak said, they all work like Dodge, just making the damage miss you and nothing happens to your opponent.


Whether Counterattack was supposed just hit them with one free normal attack and whether it was supposed to cause some or all of the damage to you to be mitigated, who knows? Right now, it is just another Dodge.



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antares_Kauri
Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:59 pm
#18






TheShrak wrote:
It works just like block and dodge. No damage to you, no damage to your target.





Nope, it only works like dodge. Block only stops 50% of the incoming damage. It is half as effective.


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emo-kor
Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:12 pm
#19

and counterattack stops the damage, and attacks back with a normal attack, not taking up a round.

LittleJediMastaT
Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:27 pm
#20






antares_Kauri wrote:





TheShrak wrote:
It works just like block and dodge. No damage to you, no damage to your target.





Nope, it only works like dodge. Block only stops 50% of the incoming damage. It is half as effective.


antares
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I have never blocked one thing in game

Does it even work????



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Jedi_Mercanary
Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:31 pm
#21






emo-kor wrote:
and counterattack stops the damage, and attacks back with a normal attack, not taking up a round.






Yes, thats what its supposed to do, but I counterattack often and it never deals damage back. It works like dodge as of right now. The devs may fix it (but probally not knowing their track record) *Read your combat window when you do CA, you don't deal damage back.*




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antares_Kauri
Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:01 pm
#22








LittleJediMastaT wrote:



I have never blocked one thing in game

Does it even work????





Riflemen don't block a lot. Pikemen don't block much either outside of CoB, but when a block happens, it shows up in your combat log as a "counterattack" but the combat log of the person near you will say you "blocked". The Pikeman correspondent has been told that block is supposed to only stop 50%. Working as intended.


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MageLogan
Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:44 pm
#23

Does the skill Counterattack, found only on the Carbineer skill tree, work only with carbines, or does it also work with other weapons?


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heychulo
Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:14 pm
#24

Counterattack will work ANY TIME you are holding either a carbine class weapon or a two handed weapon class based weapon since both carbineer and swordsman have counterattack as their defense. So essentially, you could stack the defenses from the defense line of swordsman and carbineer to acheive the cap on defensive modifiers of +125 to counterattack (any points above 125 will not affect your chance to counterattack since the cap is 125)



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P__Day
Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:08 pm
#25

Im as always regrinding a new template and i was wondering how much having 125+ counterattack helps in PvP and PvE.
NashDarksabre
Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:32 pm
#26

Anything over 125 counterattack doesn't do a thing. And if anyone tells you otherwise, they are wrong.



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