Carbineer Archive

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inoch wrote:

I think what we really need to do is look at the definition of what each weapon type is. Pistol is a pistol no doubt about it and should shoot as fast as someone can pull a trigger. Nice and light good accuracy up close. To me a carbine is some kind of semi auto weapon like an Uzi or M16 type rifle. It should fire in short bursts quickly and do some kind of medium damage with good accuracy. I mean how accurate do you have to be with a gun that shoots in bursts of concentrated gunfire. The rifle should be like a sniper rifle. Very powerful but slow firing one shot at a time. How many times have you seen a sniper rifle fire at 1 sec intervals. It just didnt happen. Let alone strafe shot. I think that should have been reserved for carbines. I mean point the gun, pull and hold the trigger and sweep. That's how i think the guns should be.

Inoch,

Master AS/Carbineer/TKA of Wanderhome

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Think most rifleman would respond to that with saying they aren't snipers but heavy gunners or something like that. The thing I can't see is why then should they get all that accuracy they get, as it is now they have the best of both as in the accuracy of a sniper and the speed of a gunner.

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Synkharra wrote:
The true test to any combat profession is how you are able to perform UNBUFFED,

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PyscoJuggalo wrote:

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CairnTrenor wrote:

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inoch wrote:

I think what we really need to do is look at the definition of what each weapon type is. Pistol is a pistol no doubt about it and should shoot as fast as someone can pull a trigger. Nice and light good accuracy up close. To me a carbine is some kind of semi auto weapon like an Uzi or M16 type rifle. It should fire in short bursts quickly and do some kind of medium damage with good accuracy. I mean how accurate do you have to be with a gun that shoots in bursts of concentrated gunfire. The rifle should be like a sniper rifle. Very powerful but slow firing one shot at a time. How many times have you seen a sniper rifle fire at 1 sec intervals. It just didnt happen. Let alone strafe shot. I think that should have been reserved for carbines. I mean point the gun, pull and hold the trigger and sweep. That's how i think the guns should be.

Inoch,

Master AS/Carbineer/TKA of Wanderhome

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Think most rifleman would respond to that with saying they aren't snipers but heavy gunners or something like that. The thing I can't see is why then should they get all that accuracy they get, as it is now they have the best of both as in the accuracy of a sniper and the speed of a gunner.

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Nope Riflemen respond with this:

4-x-x-x Rifleman is called "Sniper"

x-x-4-x Rifleman is called "Gunner"

If forced to choose between both we chose Gunner, Hell take our accuracy away for all I care. Snipers rely on Stealth anyways something the developers will never give us.

Choose Rifleman at release becuase I thought we were Stealthy Snipers, found out we are actually bad ass Gunners. I'm happy with my choice

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That logic doesn't work because you don't get any speed with only that title.

Using the logic "well we get a bunch of AoE specials" doesn't work either since you have the same number of AoE specials as a pistoleer.

The only true distinction rifleman have is sniping.

PvP before buffs! one shot kills! whoever could hit first!

it was PvP before mitigation. PvP before armor. PvP before DEFENSES for gods sake.

PvP unbuffed is all about who can get in the first hit.

Well since buffs PvP is even more predictable......drum rolling................SPAM, SPAM,SPAM,SPAM. It takes on avearge more then 1 shot to kill and the first shot doesn't always win, trust me I know cause I still duel my brother all the time unbuffed and we both agree there is alot more in the way of combat variables when it comes to tactics. Unbuffed for instance if you try a KD + Dizzy and you waste 2 attacks on it to get it to stick, your toast which is the way it should be. That just one example there are plenty more. Only Spammers like Buffs.

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Synkharra wrote:
Well since buffs PvP is even more predictable......drum rolling................SPAM, SPAM,SPAM,SPAM. It takes on avearge more then 1 shot to kill and the first shot doesn't always win, trust me I know cause I still duel my brother all the time unbuffed and we both agree there is alot more in the way of combat variables when it comes to tactics. Unbuffed for instance if you try a KD + Dizzy and you waste 2 attacks on it to get it to stick, your toast which is the way it should be. That just one example there are plenty more. Only Spammers like Buffs.

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Well I'd rather spam specials than spamming my healing macro.

I'm sure you would spammer.

Synkharra wrote:
The true test to any combat profession is how you are able to perform UNBUFFED,

All I'm going to say is that if none of you duel w/o buffs and believe that the only duels that should take place are when you are buffed that you are not getting the true sense of what your characters true combat prowess is, unbuffed a commando never even comes close to hitting me so that statement above is only true on the rare occasion they do and I accept it as that ( hell even in RL a person gets lucky now in then ). If you want to measure your abilites and gauge them in comparison to other prof's you should fight unbuffed. Simple as that, hell anyone can spam.