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I hope everyone realizes that a 40% stun-resistant composite suit and a 35% stun-resistant PSG does not equal 75% stun resistance overall. You actually only have 61% resistance overall:

Someone shoots you for 1000 stun damage. Your PSG absorbs 350 damage, and 650 points pass on to be absorbed by your armor. Your armor prevents 260 damage, and you end up taking 390 damage, a total resistance of 61%. The actual formula here is (1 - ((1 - PSG resist) * (1 - armor resist))) = total resist.

Willibus: anyone can use thakatillo for +95 to knockdown defense and be virtually immune to anything you can throw at them. And even if you do manage to Dizzy/KD someone, you'll have them on the ground for 20 seconds tops. If you're a BH+Carbineer, that's time enough for 20 cripple shots at 1.5x damage. So if your cripple shots normally do, say, 60 damage in PVP after resists (rather generous number against a fully buffed and armored target), now you're doing 90 damage per shot. If your target never dodges your shots while KD'ed (they still can), you do a total of 1800 damage across three pools. Then the rifleman gets up, heals himself, and we start over .

Those of us that don't have a melee profession with carbineer are not as fortunate tho. Armor is insane now, it takes forever to whittle someone down now. My pvp carbines are a elite and Krayt dxr6, I don't do high dmg in pvp with the uber armor and reduction foods, solo I could probably take most, but if there are two I have to run as I can't do jack, it's not so bad tho I wish there were no stun weapons with AP.

Oh and fencers I have the hardest time fighting, especially when mixed with TKa and pistoleer still so hard to hit and I got 170 accuracy.

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Give me a one star if you have no life and are a complete looser.

1. You need to know how to manage the stat shift bug (yes, it is possible)


2. You need to have to have enough PSGs to make it work for a full PvP battle (and getting knocked on your butt)

Cheerz,

Cayne

Message Edited by Carmien on 04-06-2004 10:22 PM

Message Edited by Carmien on 04-06-2004 10:24 PM

1. I heard that rifle is being set to a 3 second speed cap. If true, that would ixnay stun-headshots in a big way and give carbines/pistols a competitive chance (aka balance)


2. Yes, stun still does 7 times more damage (and 3 second cap not withstanding) pistol gets stun damage too

My only gripe as a carbineer is that we dont get stun damage. Once there is a stun carbine then the field will be level at last. Then we can all duke it out stun style and have more fun.

This is a good thread though. I still somewhat agree with the thread title. But then thats because of my style. No, I dont solo PvP. No point. However, I provide supporting fire as a carbineer. And in that battle I will be applying AoE Dizzy and Lowerposture/KD to all enemies in a 30 degree cone. Additionally, my group chat will be on fire with names of those either tagging as rifle or (for the super dextrous) showing up on the combat log as getting higher amounts of damage through.

When it comes down to it, every advantage has a foil. Right now the best foil to stun-rifle is the 3 second cap and the fact that BH's or pistoleers can play the same trick back. However, if you try to participate in this debate with the attitude that carbine deserves to be a solo weapon you may be missing a strong tactical point.

Cheerz,
Cayne