Carbineer Archive
Thread: We need a stun weapon
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zzphenom
Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:37 pm
#1
I pvp all the time and 90% of the people I'm fighting are running around in full suits of high resist composite. Everyone's running around with stun weapons so we carbineers have very little chance of taking them on. What we really need is some kind of stun weapon to make carbineers more effective in pvp.
TAfirehawk
Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:43 pm
#2
OK, nova, add item #74,876 to the list of issues.....
Wait, we added this how many weeks ago? 
novamarine
Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:01 pm
#3
I think you will find the pendulum swinging back the other way...
I know people think stun is ruling but, atleast on my server, the armorsmiths are now cranking out stun layered composite. Since the stun weapons are so poor, stun layer composite eats them up forcing players to break out the energy, acid, etc weapons they used to use.
TAfirehawk
Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:13 pm
#4
I am only seeing 20-35% Comp right now, not sure that is strong enough yet. Or maybe I just haven't seen the specialized Stun Comp yet.
Shoot, my armor is only about 55-60% Comp 
But +25 Carbine Speed and +18 Carbine Accuracy while Moving 
WOOT WOOT
Dethcon
Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:29 pm
#5
That new stun pistol is not as a big deal as some people make it out to be. OK check this out. I friendly dueled my friend a few days ago. Hey used the newest stun pistol with right near 300dmg...put a 33% max dmb Pup into it. I wore my 26% stun Comp Helm. Since the stun pistol is AP0 it did very little dmg. He would hit me for about 19 total dmg after armor took effect with Eyeshot. He is a 0-0-4-0 BH and a master pistoleer. Wanna know why. Many don't know this but here is how it works. the Special protection on Comp is AP2.SO with PvP dmg being 25% he was hitting me for 100. Half that because of the AP2 and you get 50. Half that again for the Next armour level AP1. and your down to 25. now put in the 26% to stun and you have around the 19 points that I was take in dmg after every thing was accounted for. So Stun is not as Great as many would like to think. I think a cold based Carbine would be much more effective =]
Kementari
Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:37 pm
#6
Dethcon,
Composite sepials protections are considered AR2!?? Are you sure? I've never heard this anywhere else nor seen any metion of it on the Armorsmith forums. That seems far to uber to be true.If anyone can clarify this please do.
-Kementari
Kementari
Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:40 pm
#7
make that special protections. wish I had an edit button. /cry.
-Kementari
KingKeebler
Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:48 pm
#8
ummmmm composite is only light armor...meaning AP1 so i dunno what the heck hes been wearing 
b0ba_phat
Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:54 pm
#9
Not a big deal Dethcon??? Look at this,
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~emay/soniccraft.JPG
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~emay/goldengun.JPG
Now these are of course made with the best resources and equipment on Valcyn and made by one of our master ws gurus but still look at that, those must pwn in PvP.... im glad the owners are on my side........
novamarine
Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:31 pm
#10
That gun is AR0. So cut the damage in half. Then apply the stun protection. The first one would not do better than a republic blaster and the last one was clearly made with some special stuff that if a republic blaster was made of would make a really fine blaster.
Dethcon
Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:03 pm
#11
KingKeebler wrote:
ummmmm composite is only light armor...meaning AP1 so i dunno what the heck hes been wearing
Ask your freindly Master armor smith. Composite armor is AP1 but when your talking about the Special Pros then for the sake of calculating dmg it goes under the AP2 scale. This is why the Jawa rifle is effective(ap1) and the T-21 is very effective(ap2)
sadggdsdsa
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:08 pm
#12
anyone who thinks the new stun pistols are not a big deal, just check this out, keep in mind this is WITHOUT a powerup
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=45111&poll_id=0&warned=y
yeah no armor piercing which cuts damage in half, but compared to energy that reduces by 90%, its clear which wins
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=45111&poll_id=0&warned=y
yeah no armor piercing which cuts damage in half, but compared to energy that reduces by 90%, its clear which wins
KingKeebler
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:17 pm
#13
lol i know how it works but saying comp armor is ap2 when you mean ap1 with resists is something very different imo
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