Carbineer Archive

I've noticed this, too.

No matter what other professions are in the group, Jedi included, it seems like once I open fire, I become the target of all the animal's aggression.

This issue has been brought up a number of times before. The Devs have been informed and continue to "collect data on the issue and are committed to making the appropriate changes" or something like that - stickied on the TK boards in their 3 questions if you want to have a peak. tbh it looks as if ranged professions are working just fine in the hate system, it's the tank's / melee'slack of ability to properly manage mob hate that's the problem (ie they don't seem to have any proper specials that can do this). So until the Devs fix TK particularly and other melee professions and give them proper tanking abilities, we'll likely still get the mobs chasing us when we open fire. So it's the usual game of waiting for the Devs to fix the system....getting kind of used to that after 2 years of playing lol

I seem to have the same problem in that aspect, I seem to agro alot of things away from other proffs. Which in the case of High level PVE is not good.

But you can get round this by using a weaker wepon when tackeling such beast in groups. And for PvP pull out your Damage cannon

I picked up stopping shot just for this issue. That is kind of a bad fix since its the skill I really wanted out of the pistol tree and it wastes alot of skill points. Other than using a lower lvl weapon and running ur @ss off I don't see any other solution until they fix some of the hate system mechanics like was stated above.

I love +retreat+ don't you.

But in all games with hate System, most tanks suck, and you need to be a really good tank who knows the in and outs of the profession to really tank effectivly. We Damage Dealers need to have patients and not always use the ONE BIG ATTACK.

Don't know if the system is bugged (did that happend with ranged shot too?) or bad luck, but +Retreat+ rulz :/

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Trebonious wrote:
You're not doing something wrong... even if you're doing the highest damage, your tanks should be taunting repeatedly for you!

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Doesn't seem to work that way in our groups, even with our melee guys using continued taunt the creatures still all make a beeline for me as soon as I open up. Taunting rarely seems to draw them off me.

The problem that I've seen is that /taunt is not working correctly within the current combat system. Presently, mob aggro is based upon damage only...mobs will gravitate toward the group member dealing out the highest amount of damage within a given period. Since most attacks by melee professions are now low-damage, the mobs are going to aggro the higher-damage ranged fighters until somebody else hits with a more powerful attack. With /taunt not working like it should, the best thing to do when we get mobbed is to freeze and hold fire momentarily, until somebody else deals enough hits to exceed your damage. This usually results in the mob's attention turning to them instead. I've done this over and over again. Just a suggestion to try out...

Seems that SOE have spent an inordinate amount of effort trying to classify professions yet they havnt thought this through. I dont want to sound synical as this may just be a bug rather than what it appears to be; a fundermental design flaw.

You're not doing something wrong... even if you're doing the highest damage, your tanks should be taunting repeatedly for you!

Ah yes, the "Hate" system, yet one more of the many things SOE spenty a lot of money planning badly for the combat revamp, and also one of the many things the combat revamp introduced which we didn't need or want.

They don't need to collect data on this, they just need to use some common sense while looking at the principal. The hate system may be described as "A mob will choose to attack the player applying the most damage to it".

Now let us look at the role of tanks, "The purpose of the tank is to occupy the mob and absorb the mob's damage".

Then let us look at nukers, "The purpose of the nuker is to simply apply the most damage possible to a mob".

Now let's go back to the definition of the hate system. Providing you have sufficient intellect you can see that pure-tanks have been rendered redundant.

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LuniticusTheSane wrote:

. If you have multiple smugglers you negate the need for a tank,

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