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Thread: 900+ Max Damage Laser?

Elapidae
Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:57 am
#1


Laser Carbine

375/375

Medium AP

5.0 speed

47 - 917


HAM

15

18

10


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Someone has this for sale on my galaxy trade. How is this possible?

I think the current offer is 2M, with that low damage though I don't see the point.

But for curiousity sake, how would this be done?



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SharellT
Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:45 pm
#2

I saw that carbine, and my initial reply was "Man, I wish I had more money..."



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Jedi1006
Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:51 pm
#3

nice weap....pretty price lol....good buy tho



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EisMan_Buckeye
Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:32 pm
#4





Elapidae wrote:

Laser Carbine

375/375

Medium AP

5.0 speed

47 - 917


HAM

15

18

10


Powered Up


Someone has this for sale on my galaxy trade. How is this possible?

I think the current offer is 2M, with that low damage though I don't see the point.

But for curiousity sake, how would this be done?





Here are the DPS stats for that weapon without a PU (assuming it is a 16% Min/32% Max Damage PU). I allways compare my weapons without PUs for consistancy purposes.


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Speed: 100+ (i.e. BHs)



Max DPS Special: Crippling shot, 2760 DPS


Target w/No Armor, PvE: 4312.50 DPS


Target w/ Light Armor, PvP: 862.50 DPS


Target w/ Light Armor and Ranged Mit 3: 402.66 DPS


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Speed:85



Max DPS Special: FAS2,1587.45 DPS (Crippling Shot = 1.88s Reload @ 1472 DPS)


Target w/No Armor, PvE:2480.39 DPS


Target w/ Light Armor, PvP:496.08 DPS


Target w/ Light Armor and Ranged Mit 3:315.81 DPS


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Conclusion:


It's not worth millions in my book.Granted, it has a great HAM cost and the damage numbers are nice (it would takeabout a +90 tissue and a 28% damage slice to equal that damage with a player crafted laser, or a +65 tissue and a 32% damage slice), but the condition is so low that I'll break that thing in less than a few weeks of heavy PvP. Against ranged mitigation3, I allready have a DXR6 that out performs this laser. It would be quite easy with good tissues and a good slice to better this laser.


The 5.0 speed makes it usefull to only Bounty Hunters, and is a killer to any carbineer with +85 speed or lower. A non-BH carbineer (even one with +25 in SEAs) should never even consider buying this carbine. I have 3 Krayt weapons (a laser, an elite, and a DXR6) that all out perform this looted laser in EVERY DPS category.


Personally, with the current weapons I allready have, I wouldn't pay more than 100k for this laser.




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Nadiel26
Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:39 pm
#5

what a nice show carbine




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TAfirehawk
Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:50 pm
#6

Your numbers are confusing me Eisman....


Without PU I get40/684 damage and subtracting a 30% damage slice (thought this was the max, maybe 35% is) it becomes 31-526 damage. Now a basic crafted Laser is around 50-300 damage and you can add some for components besides the Krayt Tissue....not sure as it has been so long since I got a "basic" Carbine. But even if you could add Stocks/Scopes to get to 100-350 damage, you still need a +176 Krayt Tissue to equal the max damage of this Loot Laser Carbine.


Or maybe I am missing something.....I have been in "outer space" in JTL





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EisMan_Buckeye
Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:27 pm
#7






TAfirehawk wrote:

Your numbers are confusing me Eisman....


Without PU I get40/684 damage and subtracting a 30% damage slice (thought this was the max, maybe 35% is) it becomes 31-526 damage. Now a basic crafted Laser is around 50-300 damage and you can add some for components besides the Krayt Tissue....not sure as it has been so long since I got a "basic" Carbine. But even if you could add Stocks/Scopes to get to 100-350 damage, you still need a +176 Krayt Tissue to equal the max damage of this Loot Laser Carbine.


Or maybe I am missing something.....I have been in "outer space" in JTL








Yeah, I messed those numbers up (just the ones about tissues and slices, the DPS numbers are still correct). Like I told TA in game, I confused the 2.7 speed on my lasser for a speed slice, when in actuallity I used a FF stock on it. Thus, this ups the value of the looted laser a bit for a BH, yet the fact still remains... in the hands of a non-FS, non-BH carbineer, this carbine is pure crap. Buyer beware, and know your stuff before slobbering over the max damage.



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galvatronicus
Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:28 pm
#8


Laser carbs work great for jedi in there pajama suits, I'll bet a BH carbineerwilling to take the chance of repairing it will shell out a lot for this weapon.


Just noticed max condition is 375, ugh.

Message Edited by galvatronicus on 09-16-2004 09:31 PM



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forgoten
Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:15 pm
#9

my laser carbine is 123-587 +51range with powerup (no krayt tissues no stock no scope) get a good weaponsmith and a damage slice and make sure your speed capped. however i suggest scopes and stocks to everyone else for obvious reasons. for some reason this weapon worx fine for me.



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PanzerGR
Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:20 pm
#10






TAfirehawk wrote:

Probably a Loot Carbine with that low of HAM.


Or you can get close to that with 150+ damage Krayt Tissues.....I calculated this at one time and with a powerup 900 max is possible.




If I was a BH with their speed, I would drop 3-4 mil on this easy








on my server thatd go for 10 probably..maybe more depending on condition




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PanzerGR
Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:22 pm
#11


actually i just looked at the condition.


Between the HAM cost and condition thats most likely a looted item; I dont know a smith who can get HAM costs that low and still keep up the damage.....and since the condition is so low it really does limit the value of the item. Id pay 2mil max for it since I wouldnt get a lot of useage from it. Would be a good zerg gun tho


Message Edited by PanzerGR on 09-16-2004 10:23 PM




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TAfirehawk
Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:04 am
#12

Probably a Loot Carbine with that low of HAM.


Or you can get close to that with 150+ damage Krayt Tissues.....I calculated this at one time and with a powerup 900 max is possible.




If I was a BH with their speed, I would drop 3-4 mil on this easy





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Elapidae
Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:05 am
#13

even with a powerd min damage of 47?



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