Carbineer Archive

One thing that I don't agree with and I think that devs should rethink is the apparent advantage that BH carbine has over being Master Carbineer. Doesn't it make sense that a Master Carbineer should be the best class to weild a carbine. In doing a comparison, going BH with carbine specialization gives you more speed and accuracy than a master carbineer. BH carbine specialization is only one tree and each level gives you +10 in accuracy and speed, while Master Carbineer has to work 2 with the same number ofxp points to gain half as much points per level. Carbineers need to work 4 trees without any real advantage over BH carbine.

The followingcan be said:

1. Carbineer Should have better speed and accuracy than BH carbine. Its only fair given the fact that BH has LLC, pistol, and much better weapons to choose from.

2. Fire Knockdown (is it torso shot..can't remember) is much more damaging than crippling. The only shot that has after affects is actionshot that a master marksman canhave as well.

I just would like to see a clear advantage by a carbineer in using a carbine than any other profession.

Can it. I'm a carbineer and a bounty hunter carbineer. Stop asking for nerfs. The devs need to fix the carbineer is all.

stop calling for nerfs please; dont you think there have been enough?

btw, maybe you should work on your skills a little more and whine a little less. i spanked the last BH i ran into like a little girl in pvp.

BHs are tough opponents but they arent invulnerable.

oh btw i give alot of credit to the fact that i KD'ed his ass a couple times for my victory. if some of you whiners would actually skill up beyond novice and bring attention to the REAL flaws in the carbineer instead of calling for BH nerfs! proclaiming "my profession is broken waaaa fix me" or ranting about specials youve never even earned in the skill tree (and thus never used) we might have some actual info on what is wrong that can be presented to the devs. i realize many people have already done that latter and so far it hasnt done jack **edit** but screaming 'booo hooo my **edit** hurts' doesnt exactly help much either.

A bounty Hunter shouldn't even have their own carbine...... How realistic is that someone out there is making carbines just for bounty huners (which master carbineers can't use). It makes no sense.

In 4 skill levels the Bounty Hunter out does 16 skill levels of a carbineer (the same is also true of pistoleer, and heck commando too, as the LLC does more damage than anything a commando has).

But the BH must have a better weapon than us, plus be able to use our Laser Carbine, or we might actually win a few fights (and the Dev's don't want that).

This isn't Star Wars, its bounty hunter wars.

Hey CarbineMaster,

You realize that a Master Carbineer against someone with JUST BH Carbine would win!?

Stop calling to nerf us please. The ones that want nerfs are the weakest of them all.

Also let me add that BH CarbineIS nerfed. MOST of the moves do less than 100 DMG and miss. There all KD's so stop saying Cripplings worse and cry a little less.

Confusion shot is too powerful. A dizzy that knocks you down and you can't stand up from? Sitting duck.. very sad.

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SouthernShark wrote:

A bounty Hunter shouldn't even have their own carbine...... How realistic is that someone out there is making carbines just for bounty huners (which master carbineers can't use). It makes no sense.

In 4 skill levels the Bounty Hunter out does 16 skill levels of a carbineer (the same is also true of pistoleer, and heck commando too, as the LLC does more damage than anything a commando has).

But the BH must have a better weapon than us, plus be able to use our Laser Carbine, or we might actually win a few fights (and the Dev's don't want that).

This isn't Star Wars, its bounty hunter wars.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I wish my llc was more powerfull than the comando's flamethrower. If you want your profession to be better then get your correspondant to relay ideas for FIXES and quit trying to nerf other classes.

If you guys think BH Carbine really needs a nerf, why not try it first and see how sucky it is, instead of comparing a few skill mods. The knockdown timer killed the entire line, unlike in Carbineer where you at least have a FEW useful moves, whereas a BH has two things: jack and **edit**.

Also, the LLC does about the same damage per hit as a FT, but the FT has a mass wound-inflicting DOT and highly damaging, which makes it a lot more useful than the LLC. You have a chance to survive a hit from a LLC, but a flamethrower will keep on barbecuing you, long after the commando is dead.

No. I cannot agree. The Carbineer profession is more than just accuracy and speed, man! Look at all of the defensive bonuses the Master Carbineer gets! Look at the variety of specials! BH gets NONE of these. Take a look at the BH skill tree. You'll see the BH gets exactly zero defensive mods. None. Nil. Ziltch. Nada. NO defense whatsoever.

The BH is pure offense - if the BH does not kill his mark fast, he's in trouble. The skills as they are now reflect this. The BH is fast, he's accurate. Why? BEcuse if does not kill his foe fast, he's in trouble. Why? Because he's spent all his time learning to kill fast, and none on learning to defend himself. Let me say that again. The BH is pure offence. The Master carbineer is an allround carbine user who knows the weapons inside out, gets all the specials and knows how to defend himself while using the weapon.

If a BH fights a carbineer and only carbines are used, I'd expect the carbineer to wipe the floor with a master BH!

ur an idiot there is no BH specific carbine and the laser carbine belongs to the marksmen class not the carbineer. the only carbine that is specific to the carbineer is the elite carbine and it sux because the resources to make it suck. get your facts straight before calling for nerfs.

try getting your profession fixed first.

being a carbineer just means you are good with a carbine not the best there is. being the best takes skill on your part not some screwy stat and skill mix.

as of right now, bh carbine moves are fairly useless. Confusion shot does NOT knock you down, fire knock down misses 4/5 times. UNderhand shot is suicide, and chances are won't land a knock down either. Ok so that leaves us with....nothing. Carabineers need not become pistoleers, i mean if you really want to be like us get the bh line, noone is stopping you, and i am sure you won't be flamed anywhere near as badly as a dabling pistoleer.