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Message Edited by Setinel on 05-12-2005 12:56 AM

#1 Advanced Critical is supposed to have a chance for uber damage, hence Critical that wasn't in-game before.

#2 The Elite has a higher Max Damage and should thus hit harder but less frequently. I am still working on the Actual Damage formula.

#3 Look at the STICKY post on Carbineer Test Data.

Message Edited by TAfirehawk on 05-12-2005 12:44 AM

Thanks for the quick response TA.

I know that Critical Strike supposedly does more damage on Critical hits - but from what I've heard and seen personally this extra damage does not show up in the combat log. For example 5 Critical strike against mob 1 on Yavin all did the same amount of damage in the combat log even though it appeared to take more away from the Health on a +critical+. I also heard this was recently fixed (maybe I read it in the patch notes, dont remember) and that it now displays corect information in the combat log.

Oh and I like the ??? in the sig btw lol

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yodasoup wrote:
Could also be that your target had resists to cold?

Or different damage types between the 2 weapons?

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I thought of that too but after attacking many, many different things ranging from players, to creatures, to stormtroopers, to the new Kashyyyk mobs- they all resulted with the same type of result.

Weapon 1 > Weapon 2

When the CU first came around and they had DPS right on the weapon I figured that would be the main thing to look at but if specials are calculated through the max damage then that would have a major role in which weapons are most useful. Saying there are no default attacks (unless maybe there are a few low level low cost marksman shots that have a multiplier of 1) then the DPS can't really tell you everything.

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Setinel wrote:

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yodasoup wrote:
Could also be that your target had resists to cold?

Or different damage types between the 2 weapons?

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I thought of that too but after attacking many, many different things ranging from players, to creatures, to stormtroopers, to the new Kashyyyk mobs- they all resulted with the same type of result.

Weapon 1 > Weapon 2

When the CU first came around and they had DPS right on the weapon I figured that would be the main thing to look at but if specials are calculated through the max damage then that would have a major role in which weapons are most useful. Saying there are no default attacks (unless maybe there are a few low level low cost marksman shots that have a multiplier of 1) then the DPS can't really tell you everything.

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As you can see in my test data in the STICKY thread, the actual damage is a function of Mod DPS (and many other things I haven't all identified yet), not max damage listed on the weapon.....but I will run that through my spreadsheet today to see if there is some correlation to double check it.

And no the DPS is more misleading than providing accurate damage info right now....the actual damage formula is so much more complicated now that they took away random damage and added in all these other variables.

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Setinel wrote:

I actually liked random damage more - made you hope for that amazing hit every once in a while.

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QFE

Absolutely!!!!

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TAfirehawk wrote:

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Setinel wrote:

I actually liked random damage more - made you hope for that amazing hit every once in a while.

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QFE

Absolutely!!!!

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Setinel wrote:

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TAfirehawk wrote:

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Setinel wrote:

I actually liked random damage more - made you hope for that amazing hit every once in a while.

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QFE

Absolutely!!!!

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Guess I'm not the only one lol

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Setinel wrote:

I actually liked random damage more - made you hope for that amazing hit every once in a while.

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how unrandom is the damage? or, what i mean is, what parameters effect it, do you have any idea?

i'm feeling better now because i noticed the damage was far from random, and i sort of thought i was hallucinating or it was some kind of bug or something.