Carbineer Archive
Thread: How good is Carbineer in PVP?
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Sebo
Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:25 am
#1
Right now I am a Master Pistoleer/Almost Master Bounty Hunter and I have been using pistols for the past 4 months and was thinking of going for a change. How good is Carbineer in PVP compared to Pistoleer? I heard it was great crowd control with lots of Dizzy's and KD's. Also, is it alright in PVE? Thanks.
CIO_DarkSaber
Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:55 am
#2
Carbineer rocks in PvE, but is worthless in PvP without the BH carbine tree, a top-of-the-linelaser/DXR6 carbine,and defense stacking from other profs (most commonly pistoleer and fencer).
That's the short, abbreviated, holy-crap-its-midnight-and-I-still-can't-sleep answer heh. Plenty more info in the FAQ at the top of this forum.
Otegu123
Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:35 am
#3
carbineer's much better than pistoleer in pve
Its also more useful in pvp
You need +30 extra speed if you dont go bh carbines (so FS melee speed + some attachments). If you gobh its a lot cheaper.. but you'll also die a lot faster usually, having no defence
Eluran
Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:27 am
#4
Carbineer is fine in pvp I use it with no Bh. I use the carbineer cm template so you can keep the people dizzy/kd while you poison them. But if you want a fast carbine use the stocked ones from the imperial retreat.
TAfirehawk
Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:54 am
#6
Brainplay wrote:
Was there a post like this last week? And the week before?
Every week or two yes.....but they get buried with all the posts we have here everyday 
BH/Carbineer is far better than BH/Pistoleer....but I wouldn't stop using Pistols all together. And there is no need to master Carbineer either.
SpunkyKuma
Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:54 am
#7
BH/carb and BH/pistols are both powerful, seems BH/pistols will do alot more damage 1vs1 using a DE-10 but BH/carb in a group will mow down a jedi with proper tactics- and scattershot2 is amazingly useful as well as confusion+underhand (Fire KD doesn't seem to work as well for some reason).
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
Eluran
Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:07 am
#8
Brainplay wrote:
Was there a post like this last week? And the week before?
without these post these boards would be very dead.
Brainplay
Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:57 am
#10
TAfirehawk wrote:
Every week or two yes.....but they get buried with all the posts we have here everyday
Sometimes I wonder if going to page 2 causes cancer...
BH/Carbineer is far better than BH/Pistoleer....but I wouldn't stop using Pistols all together. And there is no need to master Carbineer either. Take a look at my template. I works very well although I dont have access to the DE-10 I still have other options. Plus the KD/dizzy combos have saved my booty more than once when pistols would have failed me completely. For Jedi hunting carbines I like better but for regular PvP then whatever does the most MIND damage is for me and tha happens to be pistols. The switch delay is what hurts me the most.
ZandorFelok
Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:03 am
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Carbineer in PvP = State Effects, State Effects, State Effects....
I can't say it enough, carbineer with KD, bleed, dizzy/blind/stun is the perfect addition to a pvp group. Sure other professions can do these moves but name another prof that can do all three over an area as large as a carbineers!!! Just don't rely on a carbineer to deal damage, eve with a top of the line laser or dxr6, the disgusting stats on pvp armor these days makes your efforts useless. The only reason my wookiee bh/carbineer does well in pvp is cause one, he has bh moves and two he has a 206 mind poison carbine. Oh and crippleshot is about to become the man killer once CU comes out. 2nd most powerful shot in the game next to last ditch. Except pistols don't have the damage range that carbines do.
Carbineer in PvE = FireKD, Sprayshot, Sprayshot, Crippleshot, crippleshot...
I'd have to say in having both a master rifleman and a master carbineer, carbineer is the better at pve. Sure a rifleman can take things down by the usual spam of either HS3 or AdvStrafe. But since I've gotten my latest laser carbine (can't think of dmg range off hand), I have been dealing massive hits equal to if not better then the hits from adv strafe from my T21 (230-690). And with the added KD's and state effects a carbineer is the ultimate ranged pve player, solo or grouped.
I just wish the game would bring us all back together and make group hunting fun again, they only went half the way, taking away our damn payouts, but thats another story for another time.
CARBINE RULZ!!!
P.S. - Out of the 4 rifleman I have dueled (no armor no deathblow) I've won all 4 duels. Its all about the state effects, KD/Dizzy DIE!!!! Even against a rifleman/dr I won, he was just wasting his time healing states, he wasn't even done with healing the first one before I had it stuck right back on him. Long story short, w/o armor, carbine rulz!
Message Edited by ZandorFelok on 12-12-2004 11:05 AM
TAfirehawk
Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:15 am
#12
ZandorFelok wrote:
Carbineer in PvP = State Effects, State Effects, State Effects....
I can't say it enough, carbineer with KD, bleed, dizzy/blind/stun is the perfect addition to a pvp group. Sure other professions can do these moves but name another prof that can do all three over an area as large as a carbineers!!! Just don't rely on a carbineer to deal damage, eve with a top of the line laser or dxr6, the disgusting stats on pvp armor these days makes your efforts useless. The only reason my wookiee bh/carbineer does well in pvp is cause one, he has bh moves and two he has a 206 mind poison carbine. Oh and crippleshot is about to become the man killer once CU comes out. 2nd most powerful shot in the game next to last ditch. Except pistols don't have the damage range that carbines do.
Carbineer in PvE = FireKD, Sprayshot, Sprayshot, Crippleshot, crippleshot...
I'd have to say in having both a master rifleman and a master carbineer, carbineer is the better at pve. Sure a rifleman can take things down by the usual spam of either HS3 or AdvStrafe. But since I've gotten my latest laser carbine (can't think of dmg range off hand), I have been dealing massive hits equal to if not better then the hits from adv strafe from my T21 (230-690). And with the added KD's and state effects a carbineer is the ultimate ranged pve player, solo or grouped.
I just wish the game would bring us all back together and make group hunting fun again, they only went half the way, taking away our damn payouts, but thats another story for another time.
CARBINE RULZ!!!
P.S. - Out of the 4 rifleman I have dueled (no armor no deathblow) I've won all 4 duels. Its all about the state effects, KD/Dizzy DIE!!!! Even against a rifleman/dr I won, he was just wasting his time healing states, he wasn't even done with healing the first one before I had it stuck right back on him. Long story short, w/o armor, carbine rulz!
Message Edited by ZandorFelok on 12-12-2004 11:05 AM
You are talking out your arse.....I suggest all people stop talking about the Combat Upgrade or face a Moderator Sponsored Vacation.....
BloodMonk
Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:50 am
#13
mm I heard they were gonna give laser eyes to artisans in the CU 
Sly
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