Carbineer Archive

Well it seems to me that my specials skills cost the same... So no fix yet in the class.
Accurancy and counterattack don't change anything at all for me. My elite is not better, my armor is very encumbrant...

But I can't now let mobs bleed to death and that IS a real paintful NERF for me...

Last big patch they NERF our postures moves so they are really useless new... Just leave me one second to run, if I was lucky enough not to get a mob warp.

So now, even if the mob is nearly dead due to bleeding, if I'm incapacited I WILL die in 100% occasions and suffer from the awful decay system...

I wonder how I didn't see before how an ubber class we are to have a nerf on each patch. Oh well I know! I'm not a pet user that why I sucks so much...

seems like ever since the patch, I'M the one doing the warping. Or my targets move further away. hard to say. Well, as other clases are quick to point out, it takes less skill points to master, and should therefore be... bad?

The fact is FOOD has been fixed now, and if you eat the appropriate foods you clamp down the HAM costs and can spam carbine specials while wearing armor.

The situation with the bleeds: Previously, if a mob bled to death you got the XP but could not loot the mob. Now if you're waiting for the mob to die, it will get to 1hp. At 1 hp all you have to do is use legshot2 once and bye-bye mob. You can then loot the mob without the 'you don't have access to this container' message.

So, the nerf cry is incomplete. HAM costs are high because these are high-powered shots, but you can cut the HAM costs down to 13% of what they usually are with food. Wearing full composite armor it costs me -19 health and action combined to fire full-auto single1.

-- Ypi

Let me get this one...

Here is the standard pissy cabineer reply:

But I shouldnt have to use anything but my carbineer skills to be uber elite god spreading destruction and DOOM. I shouldnt have to eat food or get buffs from another player in a Massive Multiplayer Role Playing Game. I should be able to spend less than half my skills and own everyone else. I shouldnt have to work with others to be powerful. I want an I WIN button .... it goes down hill from there. This forum is full of post like this.

YES we have brocken specials. YES to be a true master of carbine you have to dedicate all your points to it not less than half.But come on if you peeps dont see how powerful we get by plaining our characters around group play you need tolook it overagain. There are so many combos that allow you to beOMG insane in pvp forus carbine users its not funney. Doc/carbineer for those who want to solo more. Carbineer with bounty hunter carbine for those that want to just trash there oponents while buffed.Carbineer with a melee class to have cool defenses. The possiblities are endless. No only carbineer will never OWN or beLEET thats why you have 250 points and 1000+ other players to work with.

Open your eyesplease we have enough that is worth complaining aboutto begriping over things being brought back to reasonable. The dots in this game need a lot of work still, they were and still are too powerful. Our ham cost are high but thats what food and foc buffsare for. WIth a little thought this class is very powerful. My thoughts sorry if they are a little hostile but I am tired of the complaints from peeps that to me seem to have little to no thought behind them.

Lageas

RIP

LMAO

foc = doc

Lageas

Valdo...

Nice flame, I speak about nerf... I don't see the point of your reply BUT it's very hard to be part of the group with just the title 'Master Carbinier'.

I don't say I want to be uber, I don't do pvp at all.

For the looting... Try to be incapacitated near the mob (less than 80 m) to be able to loot it. It was hard due to the warp bug.

The facts remains : we were nerf again.

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Flaming starting again

Well first off the flame wasnt directed at you so to speak... sorry read too many threads then I got to yours. The bleeds were nerfed or fixed just depends on your point of view. I think you need to come to Tarq we loveour master carbineers and give them there do. But as to your point of joining a group with just Master carbineer well I wouldnt want you ether... the only solo master I would take with NO other skills is maybe Doc... even then I would wonder why they dont have combat medic. But thats my point we are not supose to just survive off of one set of skills in this game we are suppose to stack and mix them. I feal like people on this forum acted like we should destroy things that we were never ment to.

PVP is a great example some guy is a pistoloier/smuggler/tka kills the carbineer/architect the carbineer wines that pistoliers are way too powerful. As for pve I feal like peeps wine that theycant solowell sony doesnt want us tobe soloing the high end content so to speak. Look at the CH nerfs/fixes that are coming down. I wil agree with you thatSOEis basicaly charging us to pay beta 4. But itdoesnt bother me other MMORPGare the same way. The devs just cant prepare for what 200+ thousand peeps are going to come up with.

My 2 creds and thanks I liked it as well

Lageas

RIP

Also, if you eat food you can get your HAM cost down to 0 quite easily.

The warp bug has been fixed quite a bit.

-- Ypi

well im a doc 4/4/2/3 and and carbineer newbie at 3/0/0/0 and i love my shots ! cant wait unitll i get master carb...

i also use a non ch pet only 3200 ham that helps me alot...also i got scout /4/0/1/1 wich is good for running fast i personally love Carbineer...

Well, considering that bleeds exist for pretty much all combat classes, the bleed change was hardly carbineer specific. And I have to say that, as a former master pistoleer, I like carb. I certainly have less raw damage output, but the area attacks, state changes, and ranged kd are very useful.

The problem with bleed no longer killing is that I'd open up with a bleed on my Rebel NPC foes. Then, I'd almost alwaysbe incapped, but I would have done enough damage so that when he was walking over to me to DB, he'd die. I didn't care about loot. I cared about standing up.

I can understand it on players, but can't we bend reality a bit so it doesn't happen to NPCs?

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Valdo wrote:

Let me get this one...

Here is the standard pissy cabineer reply:

But I shouldnt have to use anything but my carbineer skills to be uber elite god spreading destruction and DOOM. I shouldnt have to eat food or get buffs from another player in a Massive Multiplayer Role Playing Game. I should be able to spend less than half my skills and own everyone else. I shouldnt have to work with others to be powerful. I want an I WIN button .... it goes down hill from there. This forum is full of post like this.

YES we have brocken specials. YES to be a true master of carbine you have to dedicate all your points to it not less than half.But come on if you peeps dont see how powerful we get by plaining our characters around group play you need tolook it overagain. There are so many combos that allow you to beOMG insane in pvp forus carbine users its not funney. Doc/carbineer for those who want to solo more. Carbineer with bounty hunter carbine for those that want to just trash there oponents while buffed.Carbineer with a melee class to have cool defenses. The possiblities are endless. No only carbineer will never OWN or beLEET thats why you have 250 points and 1000+ other players to work with.

Open your eyesplease we have enough that is worth complaining aboutto begriping over things being brought back to reasonable. The dots in this game need a lot of work still, they were and still are too powerful. Our ham cost are high but thats what food and foc buffsare for. WIth a little thought this class is very powerful. My thoughts sorry if they are a little hostile but I am tired of the complaints from peeps that to me seem to have little to no thought behind them.

Lageas

RIP

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In a clear, concise, non-flame manner, I will respond to this. Valdo, we only ask for what the devs claim that Carbineer is supposed to be. We didn't make up the description of the class. Furthermore, the devs have agreed with our assessment of our problems. More than that, EVERY class has a nice set of moves. As far as the ranged classes are concerned, most have the ability to stand on their own, believe it or not. Carbineer is about the only one that can't, and our "uber godlike destruction and DOOM bringing" specials (I paraphrase of course) are broken, or make little to no sense. Suppression Fire......why bother with a special that posture changes when you have Action Shot which posture changes and bleeds? Charge Shot 2..........doesn't KD. Timer, blah blah blah. You know the drill. If we were supposed to be this way, we'd be happy. We're not though, and the devs admit to it. Yet, they won't fix it. We fight to survive. Others fight to win.

No profession can stand on it's own. None. That's why you combine professions.

If you are a carbineer + doc, TKA, pistoleer, whatever, you are playing the professions right.

If you are a carbineer + nothing, you are half useless.

If you are a carbineer + crafter, you are generally using your carbine for self-defense and PvE, or when you go out with your guild.

It'll take some time before they fix the classes. Melee got priority because melee SUCKED in the beginning. Counterattack was just fixed as was dodge and block and d's in generalfor ranged (except BH) upped. Rifleman can now use surprise shot on mobs without the whole mob except their target flocking to them. Pistoleer specials like disarming shot 1 and 2 don't work, neither is the PBA2 an area effect. In good time the Beta 3 game we're playing will be fixed, and carbineer specials that don't work will be working.

-- Ypi