Carbineer Archive
Thread: No Match to BH's carbine skills
Bingo, BH isn't about damage, it has the greatest states of any profession. The speed and accuracy doesn't hurt either.
Kaelle_DB wrote:
None of the BH specials are that great for doing raw damage. I would guess just from the "feel" of sprayshot that it has about the same damage modifier as burstshot 1.
BH specials are however much more effective at sticking states. Sprayshot sticks a stun, dizzy, and blind very effectively and confusionshot sticks a stun and dizzy very effectively. The states also seem to stay stuck for much longer.
A FAS 3 at master carbineer that was more on par with sprayshot or confusionshot would rock.
TAfirehawk wrote:
As I replied in the other thread, I don't believe that for one second.....
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Neither do I, but in order to make such a gross claim alongside TAFireHawk, one has to have credits, and plenty of them. BH carbineers get Speed, Accuracy, and more specifically good KD combo moves.
While it will cost you an arm and a leg, +25 Carbine Speed is achievable at Master Carbineer, and will make you speedcap at roughly 2.7 speeds. This weapon speed is easily obtainable for anyone that uses -0.5ish tissues and an Imp Stock, but again, money is required.
As for accuracy, I believe Master Carbineers get 130 while the most common BH/Carbineers get 180/190? +25 to 130 gives 155. You won't notice a difference between 155 and 180.. atleast, not if you're speedcap firing.
But most importantly, BH/Carbineers get NO bonuses to Accuracy While Moving, and are stuck at +30 like us Master Carbineer. I'm a firm believer that if you're going to spend money on carbine equipment, SEAs should be invested in THIS statistic, as well as speed. Going from 30 to 55 is not cheap - not cheap at all, in fact, but it's doable (I just bought a +8 (finally!) that now puts me at +25) if you have, again, the credits.
In the end, you've saved yourself TONS of SP, and can actually fare quite well against a BH/Carbineer. Throw in a melee profession with this, like Fencer, or Doctor, and you'll kick a BH/Carbineer's butt anyday.
Like most templates, skills can be revoked if you have the SEAs and the credits to buy them. Currently, I've invested in 4003 TKA, but if I had the SEAs, I could go down to 4002 or even 4001. Those few SP could be thrown into say Pharmacology 4, which will allow me to practically get a full insta-heal.
So yes.. BH/Carbineer is great. Confusion shot does make us drool, as does FireKD. But a damn rich Carbineer who uses +80 tissues, Imperial Stocks, is lucky enough to get 35% damage slices, and has millions to spend on SEAs will win. Ok, so I didn't make a very strong point.. but it's doable.
Like TAFirehawk, I'm in the process of acquiring these very 'goodies'. I've spent too much on equipment and SEAs to give up now.. and I honestly laugh at the fact that BH/Carbineers can throw Glow wire traps while I can whack them with a Stun baton. That said, I still admire their speedcapping at gross weapon speeds. 
Message Edited by AdmiralSpy on 06-13-2004 11:43 PM
AdmiralSpy wrote:
But most importantly, BH/Carbineers get NO bonuses to Accuracy While Moving, and are stuck at +30 like us Master Carbineer. I'm a firm believer that if you're going to spend money on carbine equipment, SEAs should be invested in THIS statistic, as well as speed.